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Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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And? ... do you expect me to take that as justification for what has gone on? /Rhetorical.

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No. Do you?

And this is what you dickheads always do. Answer a question you won't answer with another (in this case, extremely dumbass) question.

I'll try again ... do you expect me to take that as justification for what has gone on?

Though you'll forgive me for not caring for your answer considering your performance thus far.

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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> Comparing it to the war in Ukraine ("Even in Ukraine") isn't really helpful or informative Why not? 40% of bombing victims in Gaza are under 10. What fraction of the population is? How does that compare to Ukraine’s demographic and bombing victim distributions? These are valid questions for contextualising a conflict.

Unfortunately the reality in Gaza is way more severe than the reality in Ukraine in nearly every conceivable metric: deaths, famine, buildings destroyed, farms, schools, hospitals, journalists killed, shortages (by blockade) of essential goods... And Ukraine is a massive war with over a million casualties, so imagine that.

How is it more severe if the Ukraine war resulted in over a million casualties?

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Neo Nazis? Nice propaganda. If Ukrainians are Nazis,then so is Russia,US and rest of the World,since you'll find weirdos with extreme beliefs in every country. The same way you can just call Palestinians terrorists because they killed bunch of people in Europe decades ago and celebrated the 9/11 and Charlie Hebdo attacks.

Of course I am not saying they are all Nazis. I fully support Ukraine. But certainly many of the battalions have far-right views, as in they are literally neo-Nazi's that support the holocaust / Hitler. I don't mean to use it in a hand-wavy sense. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade

I'm just saying there is a pretty big hypocricy. Calling Hamas anti-semitic etc. while sending these drones to fascist neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine. It is a tiny tiny group, but the Azov brigade was celebrated in the media while holding these views.

My basic point (which you never refuted) is that Israel/Palestine is fundamentally more relevant than Sudan to American citizens because our government is deeply entangled in supporting one side of it, and is influenced by the Israeli gov't.

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Guess which building first demolished to the ground by Israel military in Gaza at the beginning of the conflict? No price of getting the right answer, it's the Watan Tower building that also hosted most of Gaza Internet Sevice Provider (ISP) companies including Paltel and Jawwal and their infrastructure. It was also a hub for several international media outlets, including the Associated Press and Al Jazeera [1],[2].…

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Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Lol. This same mentality is professed by those you wish to condemn. You reveal yourself to be no better than the monsters you seek to destroy. You're willing to kill civilian women and children and men in order to do it. You're willing to blame a people for the actions of a terrorist government that Israel/Netanyahu themselves propped up, something you didn't even bother to deny. You're an absolute joke. Your consent…

How do you prove your understanding of the situation isn’t manufactured? Is it because Greta Thunberg is on your side? I could understand that, she’s quite pretty. Is it your manufactured guilt over something you didn’t do, to people that didn’t have jt happen to them? Or is it because you are what happens when children are raised by three generations of fatherless homes? Ask yourself, what would happen if Israel sai…

Israel has zero justification for its colonial occupation. Colonial occupation is unjustifiable. I don't care what cult religious "right" Israel thinks it has that allows it to occupy and genocide a group of people, and then dare to call those people the violent savages.

America did the same thing. It was called Manifest Destiny. Americans were convinced they had a God-given right to subjugate, colonize and genocide the native American people.

How do I know my understanding of the situation isn't manufactured? I have the capability to research history and have independent thoughts. Your attempt to patronize and belittle me is a poor stand-in for an actual rebuttal. All you've offered me is , "b-b-buT WhAT iF uR WrONg?".

I also don't know what you're talking about "fatherless homes", I was indeed raised without a father and still seem to be a much better representative of what it means to be a man than someone who justifies the mass killing of innocent women and children over a manufactured terrorist strike. You speak from a place of privilege and ignorance. You should be ashamed of yourself.

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If Israel improved its conduct by a factor of 1000, then maybe it could be considered "a war mongering nation". Instead, it's going down in history as a relatively-short-lived (<100 years) exercise in savagery.

This sort of sober analysis is what makes posts on this topic so edifying. /s

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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How do you prove your understanding of the situation isn’t manufactured? Is it because Greta Thunberg is on your side? I could understand that, she’s quite pretty. Is it your manufactured guilt over something you didn’t do, to people that didn’t have jt happen to them? Or is it because you are what happens when children are raised by three generations of fatherless homes? Ask yourself, what would happen if Israel sai…

Israel has zero justification for its colonial occupation. Colonial occupation is unjustifiable. I don't care what cult religious "right" Israel thinks it has that allows it to occupy and genocide a group of people, and then dare to call those people the violent savages. America did the same thing. It was called Manifest Destiny. Americans were convinced they had a God-given right to subjugate, colonize and genocide…

What would I need to read / watch to be convinced that October 7th was a false flag / manufactured incident?

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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If Israel improved its conduct by a factor of 1000, then maybe it could be considered "a war mongering nation". Instead, it's going down in history as a relatively-short-lived (<100 years) exercise in savagery.

So far Iran looks like the aggressive nation (who also funded Hamas and all acts of terror in the middle east instead of investing in drinking water infrastructure) thats going down, with the love of god, after 50 years since its revolution. Israel seems more resilient at the moment, only responding to savagery from Gazans. Remember October 7th and the hostages that could've ended it so much time ago

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Israel has zero justification for its colonial occupation. Colonial occupation is unjustifiable. I don't care what cult religious "right" Israel thinks it has that allows it to occupy and genocide a group of people, and then dare to call those people the violent savages. America did the same thing. It was called Manifest Destiny. Americans were convinced they had a God-given right to subjugate, colonize and genocide…

What would I need to read / watch to be convinced that October 7th was a false flag / manufactured incident?

I didn't insinuate it was a false flag, but that it was a natural result of an ongoing manufactured conflict designed for consolidation of power.

Have you read the article I linked in a prior message and attempted to corroborate or disprove its contents?

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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What would I need to read / watch to be convinced that October 7th was a false flag / manufactured incident?

I didn't insinuate it was a false flag, but that it was a natural result of an ongoing manufactured conflict designed for consolidation of power. Have you read the article I linked in a prior message and attempted to corroborate or disprove its contents?

This one?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up...

I don’t know what you think it’s trying to say, but I will admit that my own ideological bent probably makes it read a lot differently to you.

I have a half-non-serious idea that these small scale wars (compared to WWI / II) that pop up around the world from time to time occur to maintain at least some state of force-readiness and to make use of ordnance with a limited shelf life. Everything else is just a ruse, and people like you and myself are unwittingly divided over meaningless conflict in far off lands, and would probably get along really well as colleagues or friends.

Thanks for continuing the conversation and not getting triggered by my probably immature responses. I do think Jesse Lee Peterson does have a point though.

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