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IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

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Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#11

I would really like to see this kind of work be done upstream. Emacs still looks the same as it did decades ago despite other editors advancing and becoming more user friendly.

I'm afraid that many people consider "looking the same as decades ago" a feature...

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#12

I would love to see a project that rebuilds the Emacs UI but keeps the underlying core to give it a modern facelift, some things in emacs blend together and are a pain for my eyes to figure out whats what. It would be nice if the UI was modernized but the core was left as-is. I'm reminded of some of my favorite editors that are niche being Lisp related ones, where if you held down ctrl it would show you shortcuts in…

You mean something like which-key? It existed for a long time as an external package and was added to main emacs recently. https://github.com/emacs-mirror/emacs/commit/fa4203300fde682...

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#13
As a long-time Emacs user, I'm surprised by how easy it has become lately to configure Emacs as an IDE, mainly due to the built-in eglot. You need a lot less elisp code than you used to. A working Python setup is like one line of config.

Which is to say, this project isn't really for me, because I'm already familiar with Emacs keybindings. And as for a new user, they're going to eventually have to deal with the underlying configuration. Maybe it's a gateway drug?

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#14

I would really like to see this kind of work be done upstream. Emacs still looks the same as it did decades ago despite other editors advancing and becoming more user friendly.

Please, no. Emacs could use some interface/toolkit update, I don't deny that. And I like IDE features. I use tree-sitter, LSPs, copilot.el, copilot-chat.el, and others all day, every day.

But don't force me to turn off treemacs, and minimap like I have to do in VSCode all the time just because some useless, space-wasting eye-candy is trendy.

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#15

I would really like to see this kind of work be done upstream. Emacs still looks the same as it did decades ago despite other editors advancing and becoming more user friendly.

A huge portion of the emacs community seems resistant to any UI improvement. I think it's a counterculture thing.

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#17

I would really like to see this kind of work be done upstream. Emacs still looks the same as it did decades ago despite other editors advancing and becoming more user friendly.

Switching the default experience away from what people have grown used to over decades seems incredibly rude (despite what commercial software has normalized).

The magic of emacs is infinite customizability. And it's quite easy for users to find and start with emacs "distributions" or "starter packs". So that's probably the best route forward.

Potential improvements:

1 Base emacs continues to make it easier to try out a bunch of configurations and switch between them, obviating solutions like chemacs

2 There's a web repository of a a variety of starter packs with screenshots and reviews and installation instructions, to help beginners find everything in one place.

3 ...

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#18

What I miss from vscode is the remote functionality, can you do it with emacs? For neovim there is distant.nvim, but idk if it is mature enough and configuration seems a bit annoying...

There is TRAMP.

https://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/

I am not sure if it will fit your needs or not.

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#19

What I miss from vscode is the remote functionality, can you do it with emacs? For neovim there is distant.nvim, but idk if it is mature enough and configuration seems a bit annoying...

I believe the analogous thing in emacs is called TRAMP. I have no idea if it's good, as I never edit files remotely, but it exists.

Re: IDEmacs: A Visual Studio Code clone for Emacs

#20

What I miss from vscode is the remote functionality, can you do it with emacs? For neovim there is distant.nvim, but idk if it is mature enough and configuration seems a bit annoying...

Emacs already does that with TRAMP via SSH -- You just open a file like /ssh:user@server:/etc/hosts the main downside is if your connection is laggy Emacs will lock up momentarily. There is an ongoing effort to improve the multithreaded-ness and async-ness of Emacs to make it nicer
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