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Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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Are you running it on a particularly potatoey PC? On my fairly ancient Core i7-8700 I can have a video call open in one screen and be editing in Resolve on another.

It's not that it hogs resources. The app is just slow. So so so so terribly slow. And half of the time it crashes. Or the video/audio doesn't work.

Exactly my case, powerful Ubuntu setup, App sucks, Teams in Chrome sucks, but soon as I run on Edge, no problems

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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From a UI perspective, Teams is terrible, but there is one thing it does well and that's large meeting calls. Microsoft knows their customers: large companies. The boss doesn't see that you can't properly paste a piece of code in the chat, but he wants to make sure that everyone hears him at the annual talk. He wants it to connect to the company directory, make analytics, reflect the corporate hierarchy, make announc…

Completely agreed. I sit in dismay, remembering the Microsoft I frowned upon back in the days as a Linux/FreeBSD user. But at least their software was accessible via keyboard and their translations were really good. Fast forward to now, after being a dev on Windows for years and loving it, and now their UX is a joke. For example, to jump back and forth between chats, neither the back/forth mouse buttons nor any other…

I remember working at MS a decade ago and how good out translation pipeline was. Tons of attention paid to cultural nuances even between different English dialects. We'd have separate translations for UK, US, AUS, and international English. We'd change not just words but the overall tone of messages based on the culture in different countries.

So much care, and the expertise and professionalism of the people doing the worn was amazing.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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mIRC fails at video conferencing, though. You're comparing apples to oranges.

Teams regularly fails at video conferencing. It complains of low network bandwidth at random times, and I check my firewall (OpnSense with fq_codel enabled and reasonable bandwidth limits) to note that it under very light load. I am not sure if this is a server side thing at Microsoft, or a problem with the application itself. True under Windows, Linux, via local app, and via the web app. For larger meetings (> 50 pe…

I used Teams since released, never have those problems unless on a bad network. Use it several hours a day.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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> It works fine 19 times out of 20 at least. But for something you use 3-5x a day, that is a noticeable problem every few days. Why it has such an awful reputation.

So so all of the hate is just due to some dropped calls? Realistically it isn't even that bad (likely more like 2% failure rate). For me, I use Teams but it isn't like I am in the application all day. If it were 10X better I wouldn't care very much - like MS word vs Google docs or whatever. I care a lot about text editors on the other hand.

The hate comes, deservedly I might add, from a lot more than just dropped calls. Terrible UI. Horrendous performance. Bloated apps. Confusing UX. Completely broken integration with the desktop/browser.

Teams is an absolute mess.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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It's meant to be Just Good Enough to keep C-Suites from picking Zoom and Slack.

Yeah, but like is no one proud on that team to actually deliver something useful?

Microsoft in a nutshell.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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It's not that it hogs resources. The app is just slow. So so so so terribly slow. And half of the time it crashes. Or the video/audio doesn't work.

Exactly my case, powerful Ubuntu setup, App sucks, Teams in Chrome sucks, but soon as I run on Edge, no problems

At my company we typically use Firefox with containers because Teams didn't have account switching. But then actually calling is so unstable we regularly have to switch to chromium.

Not surprised it properly works on Edge at all.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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From a UI perspective, Teams is terrible, but there is one thing it does well and that's large meeting calls. Microsoft knows their customers: large companies. The boss doesn't see that you can't properly paste a piece of code in the chat, but he wants to make sure that everyone hears him at the annual talk. He wants it to connect to the company directory, make analytics, reflect the corporate hierarchy, make announc…

Completely agreed. I sit in dismay, remembering the Microsoft I frowned upon back in the days as a Linux/FreeBSD user. But at least their software was accessible via keyboard and their translations were really good. Fast forward to now, after being a dev on Windows for years and loving it, and now their UX is a joke. For example, to jump back and forth between chats, neither the back/forth mouse buttons nor any other…

It’s sad to see the decline in the quality of desktop computing. I blame this on the rise of mobile apps and Web apps in the 2010s. It’s not that mobile apps and Web apps are inherently bad; that’s not the problem. The problems is that we have an entire generation of engineers who never learned desktop UI/UX conventions and principles.

To make matters worse, in an attempt to save on development costs, mobile and Web applications have been deployed on the desktop, with the justification that it’s better to have an app, even a shoddy one, than to not have one at all. What’s appropriate on a smartphone or a tablet may not be appropriate on a desktop, and vice versa. The Web never had a mechanism for enforcing UI/UX guidelines, similar to the MS-DOS and Apple II days of computing.

The sad thing is Microsoft and even Apple now have shoddy desktop apps, despite the fact they have the resources to make well-designed desktop apps, and that at one point they set standards for excellent desktop apps and conformed to them.

We had a sweet spot in the 2000s with Windows 2000/XP/7 and Mac OS X and their ecosystems of desktop applications. It’s been downhill since.

Re: Unofficial Microsoft Teams client for Linux

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I use Teams on Windows extensively at work (for chats, calls, meetings, screen sharing). And I have zero issues with it. It’s been really solid for me since that major overhaul they did a couple of years back. Not sure what issues you have, but I wonder if perhaps that us NOT running 3rd party security products is a factor (we only run Windows Defender).

Apart from it being slow, a memory hog and having a shitty web-based UI that feels out of place regardless of what OS you’re using. It’s missing basic features. One example is the inability to share only part of your screen. This is essential if you’re working on a large, ultra-wide monitor. There’s been a feature request for this on Microsofts feedback site for years . Also, how embarrassing is it that the biggest s…

I use this - pain in the ass but it works. https://github.com/tom-englert/RegionToShare
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