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Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by codedokode » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 5:59 PM UTC

freakynit wrote: post #214

codedokode wrote: post #80

Note that association's site is made from this free template [1] with minimal editing (can see it using diff). The web hosting account at name.com (prices starting from $5/year) was registered around Jan 12, 2025 [2]. The page also contains commented out section with a part of French mobile phone number and words "Emergency Standard" (the template contained fictional number here): Emergency Standard --> [1] https://w…

Publication manager: Jean DOMINIQUE Author of response PDF to Adguard: someone named "bob" Uses Microsoft and Office 365 RNA number W691110691. Was declared on February 15, 2025, and published in the Journal Officiel on March 18, 2025 Headquartered at 131 rue de Créqui, 69006 Lyon 6 in the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, specifically in the Rhône department. Publication number: 20250011, announcement number 1688

The article mentioned that this might be a mass registration address, and it seems that in France details of association founders are not published.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by e2le » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:00 PM UTC

rgj wrote: post #135

user_7832 wrote: post #131

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Well then, that would be a very interesting thing to watch when it happens! From the article, the penalty for a false report: > ...shall be punished by one year’s imprisonment and a fine of €15,000. Side note, would anybody know how "easily" do political elites get off the hook in France?

But apparently there was actual CSAM there, since the article mentioned that archive.is removed it within a few hours. So the claim was real. Why did they make up such a story around it?

>They replied within a few hours. The response was straightforward: the illegal content would be removed (and we verified that it was), and they had never received any previous notifications about those URLs.

They never notified archive.today of the illegal material, instead they chose to demand blocking actions of archive.today from a DNS provider. I would be interested to know whether any other DNS service providers have received similar such demands.

I would assume (like any normal individual), that you would notify the service first (archive.today) and if they've proven to be a non-responder to CSAM material then escalate to legal action.

If archive.today is honest about never receiving a prior notification, then the way in which they've decided to go about removing the illegal material is very suspicious.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by harvey9 » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:02 PM UTC

Dilettante_ wrote: post #164

harvey9 wrote: post #41

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You don't need to apologise for something you didn't do just because it happened in your country.

[Germany's ears perk up]

I'm addressing an individual, not a state.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by latentsea » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:03 PM UTC

breppp wrote: post #170

hobs wrote: post #156

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pizzagate = not real, what I just said is not a conspiracy theory.

The jeffery epstein case is real, however the narrative created is similar to pizzagate "world elite is practicing a child sex ring", this is why it's so compatible with the current vogue bipartisan populism which generally says "your life sucks because of the rich/elites" jeffery epstein was in reality associated with many politicians, including trump and clinton, as far as I can tell on both sides there is a lot of…

> "world elite is practicing a child sex ring"

On pure numbers alone, this is practically guaranteed to be the case for a portion of the world elite, since statistically speaking at least 1% ~ 2% of them will be pedophiles. Same as any community, anywhere. The average child sex ring is probably made up of individuals about as wealthy and sophisticated as your dad, uncle, neighbour, boss or your friends, and if even they can pull it off then surely the global elite can.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by mistercheph » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:04 PM UTC

Ntrails wrote: post #186

matheusmoreira wrote: post #133

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I've given up on trying to change the world. > What will the world will be like in the future is decided by us every day. That's the problem. This "us" you're referring to. People. They're the problem. They have no principles. They stand for nothing. They think they do, but the reality is their principles are easily compromised. They are highly susceptible to manipulation by way of emotion. Powerful emotions like ter…

> The internet that connects us also connects criminals, the cryptography that protects us also protects criminals. Agreed. If only we could also agree that not everyone who thinks this is not a good trade is evil/malignant/stupid etc. idk - it feels like a simple case of priorities. Freedom and privacy are not everyones

I wish there was a country all those people could go and be happy, fat, and safe, and I could remain here with freedom. Maybe China or the UK would be nice places to suggest for these people to go? More closely aligned with their values

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by freakynit » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:05 PM UTC

codedokode wrote: post #241

freakynit wrote: post #214

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Publication manager: Jean DOMINIQUE Author of response PDF to Adguard: someone named "bob" Uses Microsoft and Office 365 RNA number W691110691. Was declared on February 15, 2025, and published in the Journal Officiel on March 18, 2025 Headquartered at 131 rue de Créqui, 69006 Lyon 6 in the Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes region, specifically in the Rhône department. Publication number: 20250011, announcement number 1688

The article mentioned that this might be a mass registration address, and it seems that in France details of association founders are not published.

And also the timelines are pretty condensed... a lot is off... this does not seem genuine.. seems more like scanning csam page themselves and then going for reporting for some other hidden nefarious reason.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by simion314 » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:10 PM UTC

PinkSheep wrote: post #158

simion314 wrote: post #81

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>You could say France has pwnd Durov. The Telegram dude is still pushing Ruzzian propaganda and is interfering in other countries elections for proRuzzian forces. So from the facts I can say Telegram and it's boss are a KGB asset, not sure what France managed to get from the guy or it was all a KGB propaganda operation to make idiots think Telegram is not controlled by KGB.

You need a new edition of the playbook. They have been renamed 30 years ago. The gov shutdown is hitting real hard, isn't it? /s

I am not from USA, I mentioned facts you can check, so you can judge the guys action or you be "navie" and trust his words. So for actuaal people that want the truth the badstatd was caiming in the day of Romanian election that France asked him to push pro EU propaganda in Telegram and he the big hero refussed. For some reason he only had the ability to tell the truth about his heroism in the day of the elections and not before when the press could demand him to bring some evidence or details. Ofc there was no evidence and I think he repeated this shit again in Moldova elections... The facts show the bastards is working for the KGB, maybe he is forced to do it and maybe he actually hatest Putin but he plays the Kremlin dance for some reason.

P.S. for lazy Ruzzian cyber trolls, when you see an old account where less then 1% of shit is about Putin and the Zeds then this is clearly a real person, find more inteligent or less drunk keybord worriors.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by xandrius » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:12 PM UTC

valicord wrote: post #209

AstralStorm wrote: post #193

How can you even sue without any legal identity? This website and an organisation does not happen to have any. Might as well be some shell company in the Carribeans with no legal standing in France. It's not even good enough for public prosecution, as the tip would then go through French services. This law is completely backwards, and worse than a SLAPP. If you cannot respond to a report in any way, it should be null…

If you can sue shark fins, why not a website? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Approximately...

Holy crap, 30'000 sharks kills for a bloody soup. Insane and that wasn't even their only journey.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by immibis » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:14 PM UTC

vintermann wrote: post #227

shkkmo wrote: post #200

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The article mentions the FBI investigation but is not about that. This article is about a pressure campaign, the letter Web Abuse Association Defense sent to adguard making threats under french law and adguard's investigation in response to that letter.

A French organization with an English name, writing in English? J'en doute.

Very many European citizens speak English and it's the lingua franca* of the Internet.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by matheusmoreira » Sat, Nov 15, 2025, 6:15 PM UTC

CPLX wrote: post #230

matheusmoreira wrote: post #184

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We don't disagree. I acknowledge its failure. I am merely mourning the loss. We could debate the reasons for it all day, it won't change a thing... I'm becoming increasingly elitist. Things change profoundly for the worse every time the masses are allowed into our spaces. People have money which attracts corporations which corrupt and destroy everything, thereby eventually attracting governments as well. Whatever tec…

The problem with this idea is that it's the elite that caused the problem. It's the nerds that turned out to be sociopathic predators. I say this with love - I was one, but maybe this isn't the group that was best suited to decide how society is structured.

Nerds are only human. The presence of sociopaths is expected.

Love is an interesting word. I love computers. I care more about computers than I care about human society. I see computers as the most important invention of humanity. Computers are so powerful they are subversive. They can wipe out entire sections of the economy if left unchecked. They can easily defeat police, judges, militaries, spies. They're too powerful.

I think society should have adapted to computers. It should have reinvented itself so that computers could remain omnipotent machines with us as their masters. Society refused. It opted to castrate our computers instead. Lock them down, control them, subject them to their will. Impose digital locks so that only "authorized" software runs. Only governments and corporations will have the keys to the machine now.

The changes to the internet are just more of the same. We got to experience the full spectrum of humanity, both good and bad. Governments have now swooped in to reduce that spectrum. Much will be lost in the transition.

It makes me profoundly depressed to witness all this.