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Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by avazhi »

Anti-child porn activists really are a unique new breed of fascist authoritarians. This is only the latest in a long line of outrageous and comical threatening letters where the recipient’s apparent reticence to comply with a takedown request is deemed to be, by the activists, active knowing involvement and participation, which is obviously outrageous but these dickheads bank on the fact that actual child porn elicits such strong community reactions.

See also: trying to strongarm Apple into running local scans on everybody’s devices and telling Apple not to listen to its customers.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Post by IAmGraydon »

xbmcuser wrote: post #10

I speculate, and the conspiracy theorist in me believes, something of a compromising nature has been archived and they want that data inaccessible, but at the same time, pointing out what they want hidden would shine a light on it. It is even more interesting the US government is coming after archive.today at the same time, or maybe that is just a coincidence, and this is just a tech-savvy philanderer trying to hide…

I doubt it’s one thing. People in powerful positions need the ability to control the narrative and gaslight the public on an ongoing basis by disappearing content. Being able to call them out on it breaks their system, so they’re trying to fix that.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#153

Post by marcosscriven »

phyzome wrote: post #91
marcosscriven wrote: post #9

The wording in that follow-up email is so emotive it reads more like a Tweet than formal contact from a federal organisation. That in itself is quite shocking really.

Well, as the post indicates, it likely isn't from a government body.

Oh I see, I thought it was all FBI.

But the point stands I think, as I’d expect legal demands to be measured and to the point.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#154

Post by immibis »

iamnothere wrote: post #50
dude187 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the same technique that people on Reddit use to take down subreddits that don't agree with the carefully curated "hive mind".

I don’t know why you are downvoted, this is absolutely what happened semi-frequently until Reddit was finally forced to crack down on it. The same thing happened on Twitter/X for a while where bots would mass reply to targeted users with gore and CSAM.

I downvoted it because it's commonly said by people who do bad things, as a red herring. "People from your subreddit keep killing people" "Well at least we're not infected by the woke mind virus"/"You can't accuse us of that just because we don't agree with the hivemind"/etc. It's no different from "but her emails" etc.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#155

Post by alansammarone »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #133
alansammarone wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I share your feelings - both the sadness about the path we seem to be going down and the wonder about what the Internet used to be. I do believe, however, that the future does not "exist" in any real sense, but is constructed - every day, little by little, by each and every one of us. What the world will be like in the future is decided by us every day. Put another way - this is a rhetorical question - can do we do a…

I've given up on trying to change the world. > What will the world will be like in the future is decided by us every day. That's the problem. This "us" you're referring to. People. They're the problem. They have no principles. They stand for nothing. They think they do, but the reality is their principles are easily compromised. They are highly susceptible to manipulation by way of emotion. Powerful emotions like ter…

I don't necessarily disagree with you, broadly.

The good news is that, I think, we don't really need - if fact, we probably don't really want - most people to accept anything, at least the specific context of this thread. It's about whether we can carve out a space - some space - for people like you and me.

> I've given up on trying to change the world.

I don't think you have. Speech matters. Ideas matter. I'm not going to try to quantify such things, but looking at your HN submissions and your comments - including this one - I think you are actively changing the world, for better or worse. If nothing else, you believe in objective truth, I think. We have a surprisingly large number of people who don't.

> Believe in Truth. To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. If nothing is true, then no one can criticize power, because there is no basis upon which to do so. If nothing is true, then all is spectacle. The biggest wallet pays for the most blinding lights.

Timothy Snyder, On Tyranny

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#156

Post by hobs »

breppp wrote: post #129
hobs wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "The President was close friends with a known child sexual predator and his entire government spends a significant amount of time covering up their connections because it seems fairly obvious the president fucked teenagers and then fomented a coup and put literal criminals and felons in his cabinet so no one would hold him accountable while destroying the nation's economy and starting wars nobody can even u…

And that and other pedophile linked conspiracy theories (pizzagate) had huge ramifications in these elections

pizzagate = not real, what I just said is not a conspiracy theory.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#157

Post by tuetuopay »

rs186 wrote: post #23

I still can't wrap my head around why a DNS provider is required to block websites, especially one that is not associated with ISP or used as default on any device. Oversimplifying this, it's a glorified hash map, so whoever wants to take down the illegal content should just deal with the website owner?

Let's say our dear politicans view most illicit contents as nails, and view DNS as a hammer. Unfortunately they are now aware that people can trivially get around the ISP restrictions by using another DNS provider, and have started to pressure third-party providers to apply the same blockings as the ISP ones. This is why a few "neutral" providers have outright blocked France because they refuse to block websites.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#158

Post by PinkSheep »

simion314 wrote: post #81
stef25 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

France possibly found a way to pressure Durov into cooperating. Preempting similar actions by Russia. Classic intelligence methods to get someone to come over to the other side. Perhaps the DGSE also got to plug a cable in to the Telegram infrastructure, which would be huge plus for them and the west in general not in the least because of the war. You could say France has pwnd Durov. If I'm not mistaken some signific…

>You could say France has pwnd Durov. The Telegram dude is still pushing Ruzzian propaganda and is interfering in other countries elections for proRuzzian forces. So from the facts I can say Telegram and it's boss are a KGB asset, not sure what France managed to get from the guy or it was all a KGB propaganda operation to make idiots think Telegram is not controlled by KGB.

You need a new edition of the playbook. They have been renamed 30 years ago. The gov shutdown is hitting real hard, isn't it? /s

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#159

Post by ericfr11 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #133
alansammarone wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I share your feelings - both the sadness about the path we seem to be going down and the wonder about what the Internet used to be. I do believe, however, that the future does not "exist" in any real sense, but is constructed - every day, little by little, by each and every one of us. What the world will be like in the future is decided by us every day. Put another way - this is a rhetorical question - can do we do a…

I've given up on trying to change the world. > What will the world will be like in the future is decided by us every day. That's the problem. This "us" you're referring to. People. They're the problem. They have no principles. They stand for nothing. They think they do, but the reality is their principles are easily compromised. They are highly susceptible to manipulation by way of emotion. Powerful emotions like ter…

Your path seems to be one towards chaos and anarchy. You are part of the people you are referring to, if I may say so.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#160

Post by Buge »

verisimi wrote: post #125
forgotoldacc wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare has always weirded me out. Back before everyone was using it, a lot of sites would be running just fine for years, then they'd suddenly be shut down for a few days due to DDoS attacks. Then they'd proudly announce they were on cloudflare when they came back. Funny thing was I noticed sites having more frequent downtime after using moving to cloudflare. I don't see those cloudflare pages much these days, bu…

Just one of many protection rackets

Are you saying that cloudflare conducts or promotes DDoS?
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