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Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by rekabis »

MBCook wrote: post #44
fuziontech wrote: post #37

I'm glad this exists but at ~1k EUR I would be interested if it could scan 120 medium format negatives...but the fact that it does not is an absolute deal breaker for me. It seems like they are considering it. I hope they do figure that out sooner than later.

Medium is the problem. There’s nothing. Epson stopped making their flatbeds that do film, reportedly because they can’t get the CCDs anymore. That may be a rumor. The result is they go for 2x MSRP on eBay for models that are many years old. Because that’s all that exists. Without that, you can buy the kind of scanner meant for a photo lab ($$$$$), DIY it with a DSLR ($$$ if you don’t have one), or pay your a lab a lo…

>Epson stopped making their flatbeds that do film

I don’t understand this… the V850 Pro is still being publicly sold with film and slide trays… what am I missing?

And even eBay is selling them at only about $1,200-1-700 CAD, which is considerably cheaper than the 2,000+ CAD MSRP.

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by MBCook »

rekabis wrote: post #191
MBCook wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medium is the problem. There’s nothing. Epson stopped making their flatbeds that do film, reportedly because they can’t get the CCDs anymore. That may be a rumor. The result is they go for 2x MSRP on eBay for models that are many years old. Because that’s all that exists. Without that, you can buy the kind of scanner meant for a photo lab ($$$$$), DIY it with a DSLR ($$$ if you don’t have one), or pay your a lab a lo…

>Epson stopped making their flatbeds that do film I don’t understand this… the V850 Pro is still being publicly sold with film and slide trays… what am I missing? And even eBay is selling them at only about $1,200-1-700 CAD, which is considerably cheaper than the 2,000+ CAD MSRP.

All the cheaper models that used to exist are gone. So the entry price went from like $300 MSRP to something much higher.

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by rekabis »

MBCook wrote: post #192
rekabis wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Epson stopped making their flatbeds that do film I don’t understand this… the V850 Pro is still being publicly sold with film and slide trays… what am I missing? And even eBay is selling them at only about $1,200-1-700 CAD, which is considerably cheaper than the 2,000+ CAD MSRP.

All the cheaper models that used to exist are gone. So the entry price went from like $300 MSRP to something much higher.

Are you taking about other models like the v600 and v700? Because I’m not. I’ve never really seen those models with film scanning tools, it was usually only the v850 that came with film scanning tools. So I have always expected to have to stump up for a v850 if I wanted to do film scanning.

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by VerifiedReports »

trauco wrote: post #175
VerifiedReports wrote: post #146

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They also sucked. I had an LS-2000 and the images were noisy as hell and it couldn't scan negatives for shit. I sold it on eBay. It's incredible how overrated the Nikon scanners were. In the end I found a new in-box Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 II, pretty much the end of the line for film scanners. I haven't tried it yet!

The 4000-5000 series Nikon Coolscans sell for about the same price they did 20 years ago because they still produce excellent scans and there’s nothing quite as good for that $1000-$15000 price out there.

Do you have one? I'd be interested to see some scans.

I paid about $1K for the Minolta too, which if I recall correctly was slightly more than they sold for new.

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by skhr0680 »

jdelman wrote: post #183
skhr0680 wrote: post #116

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1. I had never even heard of an uncut developed roll of film before, so I guess it's useful for that. 2. Time is money, but who is honestly shooting that much 135 film that it's worth 1600 Euros to buy a faster scanner for it? I don't think a museum wants to feed degraded film through a fast scanner, and surely pros who still shoot film would use a larger format, since that's where it has some differences / advantage…

> I had never even heard of an uncut developed roll of film before That's how film is developed. Someone at a lab has to cut it. > who is honestly shooting that much 135 film How about a film lab? A place where "uncut developed film" is extremely common. >it's worth 1600 Euros to buy a faster scanner for it Price is 999 euro. > pros who still shoot film would use a larger format Some do, some don't. It depends on the…

Please don’t be patronizing. Are you involved with this project? Your comment is hostile and involves digging through my post history etc.

What I meant was “every lab I’ve ever had my film developed at cut and sleeved film by default because there were plenty of reasons to do so and not many reasons to not”

> Price is 999 euro.

It says on the site it will retail for 1599 EUR

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by trauco »

tomatocracy wrote: post #188
trauco wrote: post #174

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You can get a slide feeder for the “modern” (early aughts) Nikon Coolscans, the SF-210: https://studio-supplies.com/products/nikon-sf-210-239995

The slide feeder is good but it's worth being aware that if you have slides mounted on cardboard (I had a lot of old family photos like this I used it for) it will often grab a couple at once. You can fix that by clipping eg a driver's licence in the right place to narrow the gap it pulls the slides through, but it will still need some manual supervision. If you get one, have a look at VueScan on the software side -…

Yes this is all true but it works well when you know how to deal with these issues. I suspect aging slides would be an odder for any automated system.

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by mrexroad »

cs02rm0 wrote: post #17
mrexroad wrote: post #10

I applaud their intent to be repairable, but would really like to see a commitment to open sourcing the software under specific conditions (time, EoL, acquisition, closing down, etc). > “Is Knokke open, repairable, and long-term supported?” > “Absolutely. We're committed to building a scanner that lasts decades. All schematics and repair manuals will be publicly available, replacement parts can be purchased directly,…

In the FAQs: Is the software open source? Yes. Our control application, Korova, will be fully open source and maintained long term. It’s a native, lightweight application for Windows, macOS, and Linux.

Thanks, I’m a little embarrassed I somehow I missed that!

Re: A modern 35mm film scanner for home

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Post by jdelman »

skhr0680 wrote: post #195
jdelman wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I had never even heard of an uncut developed roll of film before That's how film is developed. Someone at a lab has to cut it. > who is honestly shooting that much 135 film How about a film lab? A place where "uncut developed film" is extremely common. >it's worth 1600 Euros to buy a faster scanner for it Price is 999 euro. > pros who still shoot film would use a larger format Some do, some don't. It depends on the…

Please don’t be patronizing. Are you involved with this project? Your comment is hostile and involves digging through my post history etc. What I meant was “every lab I’ve ever had my film developed at cut and sleeved film by default because there were plenty of reasons to do so and not many reasons to not” > Price is 999 euro. It says on the site it will retail for 1599 EUR

Ok fair enough, was a bit hostile there. No involvement with the project, and it’s practically vaporware at this point. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable to dig through people’s post histories, though. I also found the reference to 1599 buried in the FAQ.

Having said all that, film labs and rich enthusiasts do seem to be the target market for this product, if it ever launches.

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