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Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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A few weeks ago I noticed DNS4EU couldn’t resolve archive.is and assumed it was just a configuration mistake. I emailed them about it, and after a couple of days or weeks (not really sure) the domain started resolving again. Given AdGuard’s recent report about suspicious pressure on DNS providers to block Archive.today, I’m starting to wonder if DNS4EU’s temporary block was actually related to the same campaign

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100%. It's like Lenin said, you look for the person who will benefit… and, uh, uh, you know… You know, you'll uh, uh—well, you know what I'm trying to say…

I’m not sure what you’re referencing, but the principal goes back way back to the Romans: Cui bono? [0] 0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cui_bono%3F

They're referencing this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HlZhPuDYqbU

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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Its interesting that being unable to find a legal route to dig up dirt on archive.is, they're going the route of CSAM allegations. I first heard of this technique on a discussion on Lowendtalk from a hoster discussing how pressure campaigns were orchestrated. The host used to host VMs for a customer that was not well liked but otherwise within the bounds of free speech in the US (I guess something on the order of KF/…

That would work but it is a very risky technique. For the mere mortal in your example this means possible jail time just to get some site closed down.

For law enforcement personnel, at the very least would mean an end of a career if caught (also possible jail time)

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#38

Its interesting that being unable to find a legal route to dig up dirt on archive.is, they're going the route of CSAM allegations. I first heard of this technique on a discussion on Lowendtalk from a hoster discussing how pressure campaigns were orchestrated. The host used to host VMs for a customer that was not well liked but otherwise within the bounds of free speech in the US (I guess something on the order of KF/…

It's the same technique that people on Reddit use to take down subreddits that don't agree with the carefully curated "hive mind".

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

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archive.is is frequently used to bypass paywalls, I wonder if this is motivated by that somehow

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If they were any good at it, they'd have blocked the Internet Archive via robots.txt. For some inexplicable reason, IA responds to that by wiping out past, present, and future archivals of that site. They haven't taken that easy step, so I doubt they'd go the further, more involved step of focusing on this smaller actor.

Re: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today

#40

Its interesting that being unable to find a legal route to dig up dirt on archive.is, they're going the route of CSAM allegations. I first heard of this technique on a discussion on Lowendtalk from a hoster discussing how pressure campaigns were orchestrated. The host used to host VMs for a customer that was not well liked but otherwise within the bounds of free speech in the US (I guess something on the order of KF/…

It's unlikely law enforcement would take the risk to handle CSAM just to make a case against a Russian pirate, jeopardizing their careers and freedom, when the copyright case is pretty strong already. These are the doings of one of the myriad freelance "intelectual rights enforcement agents", which are paid on success and employed by some large media organization. Another possibility is that a single aggrieved indivi…

The FBI has a large archive of CSAM used for content ID:

https://cybernews.com/editorial/war-on-child-exploitation/

Of course in a pinch it could also be used for other things like pretext.

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