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AI note-taking startup Fireflies was really two guys typing notes by hand

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Re: AI note-taking startup Fireflies was really two guys typing notes by hand

#21

Isn't that something the startup people always advocate, to do things by hand till you proved there's a market? Sounds like they did

Yeah imo this is a success story.

If it was a digital transcript service alone, yes, it is a success.

Claiming that the transcripts were generated by a nonexistant AI is fraud and should be treated as such.

Re: AI note-taking startup Fireflies was really two guys typing notes by hand

#25
How isn't this just fraud?

Expectation is that sensitive meetings run through a pipeline without being exposed to actual people (and if it is for very specific reasons, there are audit trails).

Here, they literally listen to sensitive information and can act on it.

How do you trust they won't do it again to "enhance summaries" or something in the future?

Re: AI note-taking startup Fireflies was really two guys typing notes by hand

#26
I think what PG meant by "do things that don't scale" is earnest effort in service of building a real product: talking to users, manually onboarding, hand-holding early customers so you can learn fast and iterate toward something that eventually does scale.

What this startup did isn't that, AFAICT. It wasn't manual work in service of learning...it was just fraud as a business model, no? Like, they were pretending the technology existed before it actually did. There's a bright line between unscalable hustle and misleading customers about what your product actually is.

Doing unscalable things is about being scrappy and close to the problem. Pretending humans are AI is just straight up deceiving people.

Re: AI note-taking startup Fireflies was really two guys typing notes by hand

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lots of people joke about how their jobs is "just attending a bunch of meetings", but can you imagine how horrific your job would be if you were this guy and your job actually was just "attend a bunch of meetings"? AND you didn't have context or interest in the content? AND you were required to write an essay at the end proving that you paid attention?!

AND you got a billion dollar valuation out of it? Wait...

you mean a billion dollar valuation that'll collapse long before you can actually get an exit?
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