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Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Other than the cold start problem which isn't discussed (what's the userbase size in Gaza?), the main argument for Bitchat (or any other off-grid network such as Meshtastic, Briar, etc.) in Gaza when mainstream E2E encrypted messaging apps already exist and are widely used, is to not be dependent on Israel for cell service. While I do really like the idea of off-grid networks in general but for this use case, is it r…

The user base size is huge. This is actively being used by tens of thousands

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Is it actually being used in Palestine? My problem is that when you are actually locally near someone you don't really need live chat; and if you're far, it might become too unstable to use. But I might be wrong!

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AFAIK they used to have internet, but Israel clamped down on it more and more, at the same time they shot as many journalists as they could. Has there been anything out of Gaza in ages?

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

most of the gazan population has a cellphone, which has had reception most of the war. So assuming using one puts you in risk is false. About your second story, that sounds implausible, anything more substantial?

Here's an article I found on Google that contains the claim about strikes associated with preventing civilian communication. Note the "physically high places." The story about the buckets fits within that frame. (My original source was an article I saw on HN; unfortunately Google's performance on search queries related to this subject is very poor, so it isn't easy to find again. I should have been saving them...) >…

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Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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post #60

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Another problem is what happens when police stop to search you. You don't want to have "please beat me dead" app installed when it's happens.

I think in these kinds of places they beat you dead for being the wrong skin colour if they're in a bad mood. I'm not sure how much your installed apps are relevant to the decision.

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Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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Related. Others?

Ask HN: Does Anyone Use Bitchat? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44944414 - Aug 2025 (5 comments)

Testing Bitchat at the music festival - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44815164 - Aug 2025 (55 comments)

MitM Flaw in Bitchat: Identity Is a Bitchat Challenge - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44497622 - July 2025 (6 comments)

Bitchat – A decentralized messaging app that works over Bluetooth mesh networks - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44485342 - July 2025 (424 comments)

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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post #49

Other than the cold start problem which isn't discussed (what's the userbase size in Gaza?), the main argument for Bitchat (or any other off-grid network such as Meshtastic, Briar, etc.) in Gaza when mainstream E2E encrypted messaging apps already exist and are widely used, is to not be dependent on Israel for cell service. While I do really like the idea of off-grid networks in general but for this use case, is it r…

The user base size is huge. This is actively being used by tens of thousands

Tens of thousands of users? Globally you mean? I doubt it's the user base size in Gaza but if that is actually what you meant, where did you pull that estimate from?

Re: Bitchat for Gaza – messaging without internet

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post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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AFAIK they used to have internet, but Israel clamped down on it more and more, at the same time they shot as many journalists as they could. Has there been anything out of Gaza in ages?

what are you talking about about? they have internet and the they had it 99% of the time during the war.
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