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Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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Re: Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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Why 6g? who asked for it? I am content with 4g, 5g was a push as it was.

You and I are content with it, but these standards were never really about our individual and immediate experiences. It's about concurrent capacity for the growing grid as a whole.

Re: Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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Which company will design and make 6G telco hardware in Germany? I guess it will be 3/4/5G for a while, until they can someday cover the country just barely, and then 6G a decade and half later than everyone else (or is it by giving up sovereignty by buying US stuff instead?) Sorry for being hopeless, but Germany has been very good at proving its inability to fix telco issues (or its train issues…).

Both Nokia (Finland) and Ericsson (Sweden) are great european alternatives. There is no need to reinvent the wheel in every EU country.

Both Nokia and Ericsson have substantial Blackrock and Vanguard investment.

Re: Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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Is 6G even a thing? From either a bandwidth demand perspective or a financial perspective? Every US wireless service just about bankrupted themselves rolling out 5G.

Bandwidth demand is very much there...

My connection is 1.5 Gbits at 3am, but at peak time (7pm) I'm lucky to get 10 Mbits.

My network needs more capacity, and if 6G can offer it cheaper than building 5x more 5G masts, that's the route they'll have to take.

Re: Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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Is 6G even a thing? From either a bandwidth demand perspective or a financial perspective? Every US wireless service just about bankrupted themselves rolling out 5G.

Bandwidth demand is very much there... My connection is 1.5 Gbits at 3am, but at peak time (7pm) I'm lucky to get 10 Mbits. My network needs more capacity, and if 6G can offer it cheaper than building 5x more 5G masts, that's the route they'll have to take.

I guess you must live in a much more heavily populated environment than I do. For myself, I'm still trying to figure out remote 5G IOT connectivity that doesn't require $1k in hardware. Non-consumer-grade 5G hardware is incredibly expensive still, which is why we are still deploying new 4G stuff.

Re: Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that commonplace in Germany?

Sadly yes, cheap crap tends to be Huawei. Everyone with a modicum of technical understanding goes for a Fritzbox though.

I’m not familiar with the Huawei matter because it’s similar not something I have to concern myself with, but can you point to something specific or a place where I could get some facts on why Huawei is justifiably frowned upon?

I have never seen anything but the various broad claims in the news and by politicians that seem to always just kind of come down to “China bad” as evidence. Maybe I just didn’t care enough to notice, but I would have thought that if there was something real to how Huawei hardware will make the sky fall, the powers that be would have surely made that case with clear and irrefutable proof.

Thanks for providing anything you might be able to point me towards that goes beyond “China bad”, regardless of how anyone feels about China.

Re: Germany to ban Huawei from future 6G network

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On the other hand Spain is using Huawei servers for almost all of their sensitive data. I wonder how the UE, and NATO, will react to that, because they're using Huawei for Social Security data, wiretapping data (SITEL), or even Intelligence Services data.

https://therecord.media/spain-awards-contracts-huawei-intell...

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