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Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

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Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

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This is kind of disgusting. I hope they're pushed out of business for this gross violation of the dead. The families and estates of the dead should also be ashamed for trying to ride that corpse for a few more dollars. I'm kinda weirded out that there are sibling comments that think this is okay.

I, and presumably my genes, would be very pleased if my descendants could benefit more from my work today.

Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

#22
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean Lwaxana Troi, Daughter of the Fifth House, Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Riix, Heir to the Holy Rings of Betazed?

No, they meant Nurse Chapel.

Or Lady Morella, the psychic third wife of Centauri Emperor Turhan.

Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

#23
post #6

Maybe I'm getting old, but, I have to say, seeing stuff like "Alan Turing™" (a legend and titan of computing history, followed by a ™) really bums me out. I don't believe for one second that any of the deceased people listed here would want their likeness emulated in such a hollow, mechanical, and inhuman way for all of eternity.

> I don't believe for one second that any of the deceased people listed here would want their likeness emulated in such a hollow, mechanical, and inhuman way for all of eternity.

Would the mummy in the Egyptian exhibition want their lifeless body shown to the public for all of eternity? Isn't this how the world always works: once you are dead, nobody really cares about you except maybe your trust and immediate descendants.

Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

#24

This is kind of disgusting. I hope they're pushed out of business for this gross violation of the dead. The families and estates of the dead should also be ashamed for trying to ride that corpse for a few more dollars. I'm kinda weirded out that there are sibling comments that think this is okay.

I’ll bet these are licensing deals with the families and estates of the actors. These synthetic voices will provide ongoing income, long after the actors are gone.

Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

#25
post #6

Maybe I'm getting old, but, I have to say, seeing stuff like "Alan Turing™" (a legend and titan of computing history, followed by a ™) really bums me out. I don't believe for one second that any of the deceased people listed here would want their likeness emulated in such a hollow, mechanical, and inhuman way for all of eternity.

> I don't believe for one second that any of the deceased people listed here would want their likeness emulated in such a hollow, mechanical, and inhuman way for all of eternity. Would the mummy in the Egyptian exhibition want their lifeless body shown to the public for all of eternity? Isn't this how the world always works: once you are dead, nobody really cares about you except maybe your trust and immediate descen…

The mummy example is interesting, but we're not trying to reanimate mummies in an artificial way so I'm not sure it poses the same issue. There's also an educational and historical aspect with mummies that is missing here.

This also allows for the creation of a kind of "anti-history", where someone could create a fictional history for nefarious purposes.

In fact, a common undercurrent I see with many AI use cases is accelerating the breakdown of trust in society. You can no longer trust anything you read, see, or hear.

Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

#26

This is kind of disgusting. I hope they're pushed out of business for this gross violation of the dead. The families and estates of the dead should also be ashamed for trying to ride that corpse for a few more dollars. I'm kinda weirded out that there are sibling comments that think this is okay.

I’ll bet these are licensing deals with the families and estates of the actors. These synthetic voices will provide ongoing income, long after the actors are gone.

I understand that James Earl Jones licensed his voice to Disney for future portrayals of Darth Vader.

Re: Eleven Labs Debuts "Iconic Marketplace" Feat Michael Caine, Judy Garland, Others

#27
post #16
post #9

I'd personally want to hear new voices, not more of the same. I wonder if products like this take away from the opportunity for new talent to arise.

They have hundreds of new voices in their library

Of varying quality; I am not at all convinced by their "Boston" or "Yorkshire" accents.
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