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I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
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Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#82Maybe there are people higher up with a lot of money who force these features. At the end of the day, the builders have the obey.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use it for summarization constantly. I made iOS/mac shortcuts which call Gemini for various tasks and use them quite often, mostly summarization related.
How do you know its summaries are correct?
For most things it doesn't matter, as long as its usually correct enough, and "enough" is a pretty low bar for a lot of things.
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#85Does anyone want AI in anything? I can see the value of navigating to an LLM and asking specific questions, but generally speaking I don't want that just running / waiting on my machine as I open a variety of applications. It's a huge waste of resources and for most normal people is an edge case.
There's a big difference between having access to AI tools and baking AI into everything by default
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#86Unless I am horribly mistaken, using Firefox is an intentional choice by a vanishing group of people. If you are just a little bit less careful or determined, you would likely be using chrome or a chrome variant, definitely not Firefox. These users are choosing a browser that has slightly worse performance, has fewer features (e.g. WebUSB) and is seeing more problems with Cloudflare/Google captcha every day. All of this for better adblocking and full control of the browser.
Why would they want AI?
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#87I think using AI to adjust the salience landscape of a web page (aka ad blocking) would be welcomed.
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#88Nobody wants anything from Mozilla except Firefox/Thunderbird to be high-performance alternatives to Chrome/Outlook with fewer restrictions on extensions. That’s it. The rest is just activism and kids playing in a sandbox with non-profit money to pad out their resume with whatever topical keywords might land them their next gig.
I see this sentiment a lot, but I never agree with it. Sure, some of their projects seem very odd for them to lead, but given that they are completely reliant on their competitor for cash -- a revenue source that has been threatened several times by anti-trust cases against Google -- they should be looking to branch out. Firefox alone won't pay the bills, so they need to try and find some other revenue source. Plus,…
I see the point, but them following the leader on this does not seem like a recipe for success. They aren't going to be as good at AI as OpenAI's browser, and their users are going to be less bought into it. I would have hoped they'd have learned their lesson from things like FirefoxOS but I guess not...
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use it for summarization constantly. I made iOS/mac shortcuts which call Gemini for various tasks and use them quite often, mostly summarization related.
How do you know its summaries are correct?
How do you know they want a correct summary? AI slop is good enough, acceptable for many people.
Re: I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
#90I think fewer and fewer people want Mozilla in their Firefox ;) Maybe we'll get a better non-profit organization make a Firefox fork at some point.
There is zero money in making a browser.