guys, it really was worth looking at the article: the number is 40% of women ages 15-44 would love to leave US if good opportunity came along. That's insane. But then again, the political situation in the US is insane, too.
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#22Somehow we have been building a not-that-social workerbee america. It's not that romantic to live in the US. Add to that more female independence, lower marriage, easy divorce and fewer families.
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> But didn't women benefit from DEI? I see some workplaces and occupations completely woman dominated locally I'm not sure what you're asking, here. Do you think all of those women are only in those positions because of "DEI", and not because they're vastly more qualified than the men around them? Do you think other countries don't also value qualified and capable women? Or is this just some regurgitated Joe-Rogan-al…
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If we were talking about one random person, sure. But a trend with a delta that visible, at the scale of the entire population, marks significant cultural change. Regardless of the number that actually move.
Without any accompanying action taking place, there is no trend. There's just cheap tawk. The only meaningful metric in this conversation is the very one you dismiss, the number of people that actually move.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
If we were talking about one random person, sure. But a trend with a delta that visible, at the scale of the entire population, marks significant cultural change. Regardless of the number that actually move.
Without any accompanying action taking place, there is no trend. There's just cheap tawk. The only meaningful metric in this conversation is the very one you dismiss, the number of people that actually move.
You incoherently dismiss a significant measured change, against a history of responses, with significant demographic correlations, because you want some additional unmeasured information.
Then you incoherently accuse someone completely uninvolved in the measurement, of dismissing that unmeasured information.
You could have just said you would be interested in more information. As would I.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But didn't women benefit from DEI? I see some workplaces and occupations completely woman dominated locally I'm not sure what you're asking, here. Do you think all of those women are only in those positions because of "DEI", and not because they're vastly more qualified than the men around them? Do you think other countries don't also value qualified and capable women? Or is this just some regurgitated Joe-Rogan-al…
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My man, you kicked this off with "women are all DEI hires" and now you're doubling down with fact-free bullshit you're trying to pass off as "real historical facts".
1. What, specifically, was "DEI Frenzy"? 2. Why are you implying that those women and minorities were not the most capable people for the job? 3. Even if we suppose that the "DEI frenzy" nonsense is actually a real thing (and not a thing mediocre white boys and the YouTube manosphere invented so they could be angry they weren't given jobs and money just for showing up), why do you suppose that ensuring that more people who weren't previously applying for your jobs started applying wouldn't result in more women and minority hires?
Your entire premise is nonsense you've invented or been fed and are now regurgitating, and now you're desperately trying to pretend I'm like, super duper mean for calling you out on it, because what you really want is to be aggrieved and a victim. It's boring and trite.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But didn't women benefit from DEI? I see some workplaces and occupations completely woman dominated locally I'm not sure what you're asking, here. Do you think all of those women are only in those positions because of "DEI", and not because they're vastly more qualified than the men around them? Do you think other countries don't also value qualified and capable women? Or is this just some regurgitated Joe-Rogan-al…
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> Just sayin' that the facts reveal - real historical facts - that 90% of corporate hiring at the peak of the DEI frenzy was "women and minority" .... I hope that you enjoyed it.
Literally how the fuck is this "real historical facts".
You can't just say something is "real historical facts", proceed to pull a number like 90% (???) directly out of your asshole, and then also try to take some high ground around civil discussions.
Nobody wants to have a civil discussion with you because you're a liar and fundamentally a bad faith actor. There is no civil discussion to be had - you are incapable of understanding it.
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#28guys, it really was worth looking at the article: the number is 40% of women ages 15-44 would love to leave US if good opportunity came along. That's insane. But then again, the political situation in the US is insane, too.
Taking pieces out of order:
> But then again, the political situation in the US is insane, too.
Yup.
> would love to leave US if good opportunity came along.
Yeah, well, that's the problem. They need a good opportunity compared to staying in the US. That is, Afghanistan or Yemen might allow them to enter, but that's not an option - they want something better than what they have here. Well, that's fair - that's how many of our ancestors wound up here, after all. But the fact is, despite the insanity here, there aren't tons of "better" out there for people to go to.
Could things get enough worse here for that to change? Certainly. Could they do so surprisingly quickly? Also yes. But right now, things aren't worse here than they are in much of the world.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Downvoted? You must be thinking of the success women have as senior politicians and military officers. Or the societal rejection of viewpoints like incel, tradwife or manosphere.
There are a surprising number of right-wing people on HN, or bots - impossible to tell from just downvotes. If anything is even remotely critical of Cheeto Benito[1], it is automatically [flagged] as well. This site is a part of the trumposphere…
1: I love the fact that autocorrect capitalises that for me!
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#30Try it: anyone younger than 30 can get a year-long working holiday VISA in New Zealand or Australia. The conditions are not that difficult, although you obviously can't be broke. See what opportunities come up!