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Launch HN: Tweeks (YC W25) – Browser extension to deshittify the web

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Re: Launch HN: Tweeks (YC W25) – Browser extension to deshittify the web

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post #19

Where is your privacy policy and terms of service? I do not see either on your site.

Oh great point! We do have the privacy policy included directly on the site but I cut out a lot of the onboarding content if you don't have the extension installed. Working on it now!

Edit: The site is an entangled mess of state machine and I don't want to break anything right now (+ I'm trying to keep up with all the comments + traffic) so I can just put it here for now: https://www.tweeks.io/privacy

We care a lot about privacy and tried to keep everything as minimal as possible. Definitely open to feedback here!

Re: Launch HN: Tweeks (YC W25) – Browser extension to deshittify the web

#23

Its a great idea, I'm cautious to install this because I don't know how to monetize this for the long haul. I'd love to hear your thoughts on local models vs something hosted for this.

I'm a big fan of local myself, but unfortunately the local models aren't there yet. Even of the closed-source models, many surprisingly struggle with relatively simple requests in this domain.

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot more iterations of tool + prompt + agent flow updates we can and will do to make things even better, and the models will keep getting better themselves, but the task is non-trivial. If you download the raw HTML of a webpage, it's a messy jungle, and frankly impressive that the models are capable of doing anything useful with it

Re: Launch HN: Tweeks (YC W25) – Browser extension to deshittify the web

#25
post #6

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uh oh... We do have a bunch of gifs + images on the page that are poorly optimized, but that shouldn't matter at this scale. I haven't been able to see "refused to connect" on my end. Still happening for you?

Yes, but the problem was me — apologies for the low-value post. I have NextDNS configured to block newly-registered domains, and this is the first time I've seen it in action. Best of luck with the launch!

Oh that's good to hear! You admittedly gave me a small heart attack just a few minutes after posting (and all the logs on my end looked healthy). The phantom crashes/failures are the scariest. But glad we seem to be holding up so far

Re: Launch HN: Tweeks (YC W25) – Browser extension to deshittify the web

#26

I love this, but also wonder how this plays out when tooling designed to de-enshittify is owned by a YC startup that must have some sort of future exit.

Making the world (or even the internet) a better place, definitely doesn't even seem to register on the priority scale for YC startups. I personally don't need to spend any time wondering how this plays out.

These folks get $500k to run an experiment. I love that for them, experiments are great, and if someone else will pay for it, also great. YC can afford it based on their capital available for investment. But what they build will have no moat, so it can be copied in the future if traction is found, with a license that prohibits commercial use. My first thought is a directed donation to the EFF for a clone, but there are likely other paths to success (yt-dlp is incredibly effective at empowering people to rip content from 1000+ media storage systems, and runs on free open source dev time and a handful of contributions). The last crucial component is cheap local models for inference for this, remains to be solved for, but the trajectory is clear that local, efficient models will come. For people who can pay, a config dialog to specify your LLM provider and their API endpoint probably works too, but won't scale for the masses imho. Worst case, they fold or are aqui-hired, but will have taught us something on someone else's dime. Could be worse, right?

User owned and controlled inference in their compute context is what beats enshittification, it is equalizing Big Tech power asymmetry against users, or at least keeps it in check. And so, I wish this team much luck, and await their results from their experiment. Many thanks to YC for funding them.

Re: Launch HN: Tweeks (YC W25) – Browser extension to deshittify the web

#27
post #7

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I agree. I'm a firefox guy myself and it's been painful shifting my workload to chrome for testing + developing this. The extension has a lot of browser engine complexity (and unfortunately us non-chromium folks seem to be a dying breed) so I haven't been able to justify implementing cross-browser support yet. Hopefully soon!

You might be able to port it fairly easily, depending on the browser extension api's you are using. Web extensions API is emerging and a lot of it is already somewhat standardized https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web... Just some different fields in the manifest, and there are specifics that work completely different or are not available (for example favicons). I have tried Chrome -> Firefox b…

It is definitely possible, but not straightforward. With Manifest V3, the only way you can do this stuff is with the browser userScripts API. That is the only way you can execute remote code within the browser (and each script is considered "remote code").

These changes are the reason many of the existing userscript managers stopped working/being developed after MV3 went live. It is a real pain in the butt and unfortunately the functionality is not exactly the same between chrome and the generic browser API that firefox uses. There are a lot of edge cases that make everything even more of a pain.

Life would be much better (in many ways) if chrome didn't force MV3 down our throats.

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