They have watched Her one too many times.
GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
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Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#352It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
> It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system. Many people would beg to differ.
I’m sure many people will also tell you that methamphetamines make them more productive at work, but that’s not a good reason to allow unregulated public distribution of them.
You can read about the predatory nature of Replika to see where this all ends up.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#353In all of their comparisons GPT5.1 sounds worse.
They're just dialing up the annoying chatter now, who asked for this?
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#354Earlier quoted context omitted.
I hate its acknowledgement of its personality prompt. Try having a series of back and forth and each response is like “got it, keeping it short and professional. Yes, there are only seven deadly sins.” You get more prompt performance than answer.
I like the term prompt performance ; I am definitely going to use it: > prompt performance (n.) > the behaviour of a language model in which it conspicuously showcases or exaggerates how well it is following a given instruction or persona, drawing attention to its own effort rather than simply producing the requested output. :)
That's the equivalent of a performative male, so better call it performative model behaviour.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#355Earlier quoted context omitted.
They do have that option to customize its personality. One of the choices is to have it be robotic and straight to the point.
Thank you. This should be made way more apparent. I was getting absolutely sick of "That's an insightful and brilliant blah blah blah" sycophantic drivel attached to literally every single answer. Based on the comments in this thread I suspect very few people know you can change its tone.
> This should be made way more apparent.
It's right in the article you are commenting on.
> Making ChatGPT uniquely yours
> Default, Friendly (formerly Listener), and Efficient (formerly Robot) remain (with updates), and we’re adding Professional, Candid, and Quirky.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#356It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
Emotional dependence has to be the stickiest feature of any tech product. They know what they are doing.
Look into Replika to see some truly dark patterns about where this all ends up.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#357It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
They already hit a dead end and cannot innovate any further. Instead of being more accurate and deterministic, tuning the model so it produces more human-like tokens is one of a few tricks left to attract investors money.
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#358Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry that you can't control other peoples lives & wants
This is like arguing that we shouldn't try to regulate drugs because some people might "want" the heroin that ruins their lives. The existing "personalities" of LLMs are dangerous, full stop. They are trained to generate text with an air of authority and to tend to agree with anything you tell them. It is irresponsible to allow this to continue while not at least deliberately improving education around their use. Thi…
Disincentivizing something undesirable will not necessarily lead to better results, because it wrongly assumes that you can foresee all consequences of an action or inaction.
Someone who now falls in love with an LLM might instead fall for some seductress who hurts him more. Someone who now receives bad mental health assistance might receive none whatsoever.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#359It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
I'm on the hunt for ways (system instructions/first message prompts/settings/whatever) to do away with all of the fluffy nonsense in how LLMs 'speak' to you, and instead just make them be concise and matter-of-fact. fwiw as a regular user I typically interact with LLMs through either: - aistudio site (adjusting temperature, top-P, system instructions) - Gemini site/app - Copilot (workplace) Any and all advice welcome…
ChatGPT nowdays gives the option of choosing your preferred style. I have choosen "robotic" and all the ass kissing instantly stopped. Before that, I always inserted a "be conciseand direct" into the prompt.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#360Well, another reason for using their API only and tuning the exact behavior you want in something like OpenWebUI (which is what I’ve been doing with Azure OpenAI over the past year or so to keep chats and context as much on my side as possible).