I don't know what has happened, is GPT-5's Deep Research badly prompted? Or is Gemini's extensive search across hundreds of sources giving it the edge?
GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
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#332I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.
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#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
Same. If i tell it to choose A or B, I want it to output either “A” or “B”. I don’t want an essay of 10 pages about how this is exactly the right question to ask
LLMs have essentially no capability for internal thought. They can't produce the right answer without doing that. Of course, you can use thinking mode and then it'll just hide that part from you.
It can work without, I just have to prompt it five times increasingly aggressively and it’ll output the correct answer without the fluff just fine.
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#334It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#335It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#336It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
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#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
Asking it to clarify costs nothing and you end up getting up to speed with the language of the domain; everyone wins.
> Asking it to clarify costs nothing It costs the most important thing I got
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#338It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#339It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
Classic case of thinking that the use-case HN readers want is what the rest of the world wants.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#340It is truly stupid that they are trying to make it more human-like. They should have added a radio button to turn off these sort of customizations because it doesn't help some of us. Just pisses me off. It is supposed to be an answering machine, not some emotional support system.
They do have that option to customize its personality. One of the choices is to have it be robotic and straight to the point.