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Android developer verification: Early access starts

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Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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Its my device. Not google's. Imagine telling you which NPM/PIP packages you can install from your terminal. Also, its not SIDE loading. Its installing an app.

I agree, but I don't see why Google gets more critical attention than the iPhone or Xbox.

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Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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I bought the hardware, therefore I have the right to modify and repair. Natural right, full stop. That right ends are your nose, as the saying goes.

Consider whether your natural right argument might not stand in several other countries’ legal systems. The era of United States companies using common sense United States principles for the whole world is coming to an end.

Nah, that's the beauty of it. Liberal principles make a much more robust political foundation that post-liberal principles. The US is known for the former despite current flirtations with the latter. However, liberal principles aren't tied to any one country. Fortunately for us!

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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I bought the hardware, therefore I have the right to modify and repair. Natural right, full stop. That right ends are your nose, as the saying goes.

I suppose you have the right to do whatever you want with it, including zapping it in the microwave or using it as a rectal probe. I am not sure that right extends are far as forcing companies to deliver a product to your specifications (open software, hardware, or otherwise)

Right to repair requires it, thank goodness.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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Oh! I thought I had found the crucial piece finally after ~500 words, but there's indeed better news in the section after that! Thanks, I can go sleep with a more optimistic feeling now :) Also this will kill any impetus that was growing on the Linux phone development side, for better or worse. We get to live in this ecosystem a while longer, let's see if people keep damocles' sword in mind and we might see more effo…

Let's take the "W". This is pretty good news!

That's like accepting vaders 'altered' deal, and being grateful it hasn't been altered further.

If google wants a walled garden, let it wall off it's own devices, but what right does it have to command other manufactures to bow down as well? At this stage we've got the choice of dictato-potato phone prime, or misc flavour of peasant.

If you want walled garden, go use apple. The option is there. We don't need to bring that here.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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post #36

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I bought the hardware, therefore I have the right to modify and repair. Natural right, full stop. That right ends are your nose, as the saying goes.

Oh, so you're good with everyone having the "natural right" to turn handguns into automatic weapons simply because they find themselves in possession of the correct atoms? How about adding a 3rd story on the top of your house without needing a permit or structural evaluation? Note that adding "full stop" pointlessly to the end of sentences does not strengthen your argument.

Guns aren't a natural right by any stretch. Defense is, but you're confusing the US bill of rights with natural rights of all humans.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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post #210

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While it's possible to install and use Windows 11 without Secure Boot enabled, it is not a supported configuration by Microsoft and doesn't meet the minimum system requirements. Thus it could negatively affect the ability to get updates and support. > It is already not needed and insecure so should be turned off. You know what's even less secure? Having it off.

The name “Secure Boot” is such an effective way for them to guide well-meaning but naïve people's thought process to their desired outcome. Microsoft's idea of Security is security from me, not security for me. They use this overloaded language because it's so hard to argue against. It's a thought-terminating cliché. Oh, you don't use ?? You must not care about being secure, huh??? Dear Microsoft: fuck off; I refuse…

Agreed.

Also Secure boot is vulnerable to many types of exploits. Having it enabled can be a danger in its self as it can be used to infect the OS that relies on it.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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post #66
post #36

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I bought the hardware, therefore I have the right to modify and repair. Natural right, full stop. That right ends are your nose, as the saying goes.

Consider whether your natural right argument might not stand in several other countries’ legal systems. The era of United States companies using common sense United States principles for the whole world is coming to an end.

The era of common sense in the United States came to an end.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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They will just add a flag in the SafetyNet service to let other apps know if non "verified" apps have been installed. You will not be able to use any of your banking apps without first removing all of those... We need alternatives, this will not work and is a risk to freedom/democracy for all of us. Switzerland is implementing a digital ID[1]. It will be made available to the most common devices and is open source. H…

They won’t remove it if its been installed from their app stores.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

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I would like a world where buying something means you get final say over how it operates even if you might do something dangerous/harmful/illegal.

I would like a world where I have the final say over whether I should have a final say. One way to achieve this is to only allow sideloading in "developer mode", which could only be activated from the setup / onboarding screen. That way, power users who know they'll want to sideload could still sideload. The rest could enjoy the benefits of an ecosystem where somebody more competent than their 80-year-old nontechnica…

You can sideload, I mean INSTALL, software on any linux desktop. Yet there are still tons of people saying that desktop linux has gotten good enough for most of everyone's grandma to daily-drive.
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