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Android developer verification: Early access starts

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Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#51
post #7

From the very first announcement of this, Google has hinted that they were doing this under pressure from the governments in a few countries. (I don't remember the URL of the first announcement, but https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-... is from 2025-August-25 and mentions “These requirements go into effect in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand”.) The “Why verification is important” s…

Or maybe Google just has empathy for people losing millions to scams?

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#52
post #42
post #3

> Keeping users safe on Android is our top priority. I highly doubt this is your "top" priority. Or if it is then you're gotten there by completely ignoring Google account security. > intercepts the victim's notifications And who controls these notifications and forces application developers to use a specific service? > bad actors can spin up new harmful apps instantly. Like banking applications that use push or SMS…

this is an absurd rant. they invest, like, billions into security. It's not as perfect as you want it to be but "completely ignoring" is a joke. if you've got actual grievances you should say what they are so that we can actually get on your side instead of rolling our eyes

I'm not the OP but we know that SMS is not secure. Google should try banning that first.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#53
post #7

From the very first announcement of this, Google has hinted that they were doing this under pressure from the governments in a few countries. (I don't remember the URL of the first announcement, but https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-... is from 2025-August-25 and mentions “These requirements go into effect in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand”.) The “Why verification is important” s…

That's a disingenuous argument though: they are in that position because they chose to make themselves the only way that a 'normal' user is able to install software on these devices. If not for that these governments wouldn't have a point to apply pressure on in the first place.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#54
post #51
post #7

From the very first announcement of this, Google has hinted that they were doing this under pressure from the governments in a few countries. (I don't remember the URL of the first announcement, but https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-... is from 2025-August-25 and mentions “These requirements go into effect in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand”.) The “Why verification is important” s…

Or maybe Google just has empathy for people losing millions to scams?

No, then the results of many google web searches would not put scam sites at the top over the official sites. Google is fine with people being scammed. As long as they get their cut. Large corporations don't have empathy.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#55
"Based on this feedback and our ongoing conversations with the community, we are building a new advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn't verified. We are designing this flow specifically to resist coercion, ensuring that users aren't tricked into bypassing these safety checks while under pressure from a scammer. It will also include clear warnings to ensure users fully understand the risks involved, but ultimately, it puts the choice in their hands. We are gathering early feedback on the design of this feature now and will share more details in the coming months."

So they haven't actually changed anything yet, but they say that they will "in the coming months."

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#58
post #12

In the end when supporting the non tech people in the family, what I would really like is to setup their device so they can install anything on Fdroid but nothing from the play store (unless approved by me) nor direct from an apk.

I wonder if MDM can do that.

Re: Android developer verification: Early access starts

#60
post #7

From the very first announcement of this, Google has hinted that they were doing this under pressure from the governments in a few countries. (I don't remember the URL of the first announcement, but https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2025/08/elevating-... is from 2025-August-25 and mentions “These requirements go into effect in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand”.) The “Why verification is important” s…

> because the governments of countries where such scams are widespread will hold Google responsible. This is the unsurprising consequence of trying to hold big companies accountable for the things people do with their devices: The only reasonable response is to reduce freedoms with those devices, or pull out of those countries entirely. This happened a lot in the early days of the GDPR regulations when the exact laws…

These two things are not the same. The GDPR afforded rights to common people. Those companies that would pull out are the ones that were abusing data that was never theirs and could no longer do so.
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