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Okay, I'm intrigued. How in the fuck could the "nanny state" cause people to abuse heroin? Is there a reason other than "just cause it's my ideology"?
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GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
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Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#202I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.
That's what the personality selector is for: you can just pick 'Efficient' (formerly Robot) and it does a good job of answering tersely? https://share.cleanshot.com/9kBDGs7Q
At least for the Thinking model it's often still a bit long-winded.
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Food should only be for sustenance, not emotional support. We should only sell brown rice and beans, no more Oreos.
The point the OP is making is that LLMs are not reliably able to provide safe and effective emotional support as has been outlined by recent cases. We're in uncharted territory and before LLMs become emotional companions for people, we should better understand what the risks and tradeoffs are.
They also are not reliably able to provide safe and effective productivity support.
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If you include API usage, personal requests are approximately 0% of total usage, rounded to the nearest percentage.
I don't think this is true. ChatGPT has 800 million active weekly users.
The source for that being OpenAI itself. Seems a bit unlikely, especially if it intends to mean unique users.
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This is like arguing that we shouldn't try to regulate drugs because some people might "want" the heroin that ruins their lives. The existing "personalities" of LLMs are dangerous, full stop. They are trained to generate text with an air of authority and to tend to agree with anything you tell them. It is irresponsible to allow this to continue while not at least deliberately improving education around their use. Thi…
What's your proposed solution here? Are you calling for legislation that controls the personality of LLMs made available to the public?
There aren't many major labs, and they each claim to want AI to benefit humanity. They cannot entirely control how others use their APIs, but I would like their mainline chatbots to not be overly sycophantic and generally to not try and foster human-AI friendships. I can't imagine any realistic legislation, but it would be nice if the few labs just did this on their own accord (or were at least shamed more for not doing so)
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#206I'm genuinely scared about what society will look like in five years. I understand that outsourcing mentation to these LLMs is a bad things. But I'm a minority. Most people don't, and they don't want to. They slowly get taken over by a habit of letting the LLM do the thinking for them. Those mental muscles will atrophy and the result is going to be catastrophic.
It doesn't matter how accurate LLMs are. If people start bending their ears towards them whenever they encounter a problem, it'll become a point of easy leverage over ~everyone.
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#207I'm really disappointed that they're adding "personality" into the Thinking model. I pay my subscription only for this model, because it's extremely neutral, smart, and straight to the point.
Don't worry, they're also making it less smart. Sorry, "more understandable".
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#208I don't want a more conversational GPT. I want the _exact_ opposite. I want a tool with the upper limit of "conversation" being something like LCARS from Star Trek. This is quite disappointing as a current ChatGPT subscriber.
Exactly. The GPT 5 answer is _way_ better than the GPT 5.1 answer in the example. Less AI slop, more information density please.
Re: GPT-5.1: A smarter, more conversational ChatGPT
#209Unfortunately no word on "Thinking Mini" getting fixed. Before GPT-5 was released it used to be a perfect compromise between a "dumb" non-Thinking model and a SLOW Thinking model. However, something went badly wrong within the GPT-5 release cycle, and today it is exactly the same speed (or SLOWER) than their Thinking model even with Extended Thinking enabled, making it completely pointless. In essence Thinking Mini e…
Which model are you talking about here?
The one that I said in my comment, GPT-5 Thinking Mini.
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#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think this is true. ChatGPT has 800 million active weekly users.
The source for that being OpenAI itself. Seems a bit unlikely, especially if it intends to mean unique users.
I don't see any reason to think it's that far off. It's incredibly popular. Wikipedia has it listed as the 5th most popular website in the world. The ChatGPT app has had many months where it was the most downloaded app on both major mobile app stores.