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Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
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Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#32Who at Fortune deserves to be fired for its recent long string of incredibly idiotic articles about Apple, which have been panned here and elsewhere, then? I think the new Maps app is fantastic; the data accuracy leaves a bit to be desired, but I notice that those doing the most high-profile complaining point to errors in rural England, rural Ontario, etc. Here in the Bay Area, the data is working fine for me as well…
Defending the maps app as "a few months old" does not excuse the fact that it is not as good as the app it replaced. I'm sure it will improve in the future and may lead to improvements in all map apps as a result of increased competition.
(I've never used Apple Maps.)
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#33Actually, it's an Eddy Cue problem.
Can you elaborate on why you say that?
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Newsflash: A lot of people live in rural England, rural Ontario and Rural Holland. Besides, it can't find places like central station in Amsterdam (hardly rural). I don't care whether it's the app or the data, I don't care that it's working great in the bay area. What I do care about is that I had a perfectly working mapping solution, and now I have a second class thing that's just not working. I don't know about you…
True, and I granted that point already. However, a lot of people live in China , too, and it's being widely reported that Apple Maps is much better than Google Maps' data, in China. I'll just give one link, but a little googling around proves the point quite well: http://www.bangkokpost.com/tech/gadget/314283/apple-maps-bet... You didn't have a perfectly working solution before, btw; Google Maps still has a lot of er…
It is being widely reported based on one source (http://anthonydrendel.com/blog/2012/9/24/ios-maps-and-china....) that gets basic facts wrong.
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#35Who at Fortune deserves to be fired for its recent long string of incredibly idiotic articles about Apple, which have been panned here and elsewhere, then? I think the new Maps app is fantastic; the data accuracy leaves a bit to be desired, but I notice that those doing the most high-profile complaining point to errors in rural England, rural Ontario, etc. Here in the Bay Area, the data is working fine for me as well…
Maps are an interesting area for bikeshedding to occur, because any two people can both be experts in their area yet both experience wildly different results.
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's had a similar number of issues, as compared to Maps. The difference is, it didn't replace or introduce a must-have feature in iOS. As a result, it's failures were something users are able to overlook because Siri is still, essentially, a toy feature. It's not key to the phone's operation; heck it's non-obvious that it's even a feature because no where on the interface indicates that it exists (it's a hidden long…
> Maps, however, is crucial to most people that use an iPhone Citation please. Nobody I know uses google maps, even when we travel (which is a lot).
Citation might be difficult, but since we are doing anecdotal evidence anyway my experience is that most people use maps apps extensively.
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's had a similar number of issues, as compared to Maps. The difference is, it didn't replace or introduce a must-have feature in iOS. As a result, it's failures were something users are able to overlook because Siri is still, essentially, a toy feature. It's not key to the phone's operation; heck it's non-obvious that it's even a feature because no where on the interface indicates that it exists (it's a hidden long…
> Maps, however, is crucial to most people that use an iPhone Citation please. Nobody I know uses google maps, even when we travel (which is a lot).
How do you know that nobody you know uses Google maps? I'm assuming you know at least a few people who own smartphones and who you do not often travel with; have you asked them whether they use Google maps?
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#38Actually, it's an Eddy Cue problem.
Can you elaborate on why you say that?
"Eddy Cue is Apple's senior vice president of Internet Software and Services." (from http://www.apple.com/pr/bios/eddy-cue.html)
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#39Who at Fortune deserves to be fired for its recent long string of incredibly idiotic articles about Apple, which have been panned here and elsewhere, then? I think the new Maps app is fantastic; the data accuracy leaves a bit to be desired, but I notice that those doing the most high-profile complaining point to errors in rural England, rural Ontario, etc. Here in the Bay Area, the data is working fine for me as well…
Defending the maps app as "a few months old" does not excuse the fact that it is not as good as the app it replaced. I'm sure it will improve in the future and may lead to improvements in all map apps as a result of increased competition. (I've never used Apple Maps.)
I didn't defend the maps app in that way; I was defending the immaturity of the map data.
The app, as I said, is superior in my opinion to the Google Maps app. It zooms better, loads faster, looks better, has better layout, is prettier, and has turn-by-turn directions and 3D features that were absent in the Google Maps app. Remember that the app and its functionality is completely separate from the database it points to. None of the map data is stored in the app.
Re: Does Apple have a Scott Forstall problem?
#40> Inside Apple, tension has brewed for years over the [skeuomorphism] issue. Apple iOS SVP Scott Forstall is said to push for skeuomorphic design, while industrial designer Jony Ive and other Apple higher-ups are said to oppose the direction. "You could tell who did the product based on how much glitz was in the UI," says one source intimately familiar with Apple’s design process. http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670760/…
Very interesting. Of course, Steve Jobs was also in favor of skeuomorphic design, so it's not like Forstall is the sole reason I "find my friends" in stitched leather.
That's not skeumorphism; it's a style choice. If I had to simulate ripping the top piece of paper off the notepad in notes to clear it, then that would be skeumorphic design.