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Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#71
post #17

It used to be possible to pay for other people's domains (they still own it, you are just gifting the payment). Someone once renewed a hotmail domain after Microsoft forgot. Registrars should allowing gifting, source doesn't matter.

>Someone once renewed a hotmail domain after Microsoft forgot

http://www.doublewide.net/

This is what ck2 is referring to. Its was an interesting incident.

Slashdot discusssion around it: http://slashdot.org/story/03/11/06/1540257/microsoft-forgets...

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#72
post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your numbers are off. Grace period (as you have pointed out somewhat) varies by registrar. The basis for what you are saying is how long a registrar has to delete the domain before they can get their money refunded. That time period is 45 days. So on the expiration date the registrar is automatically charged for the renewal. If they delete on day 45 (by a certain time depending on when registered) they will have thei…

You start by saying my numbers are off, then agree about the variability of the grace period before stating exactly the same numbers as I did? Thanks for clearing up the redemption period invariability though.

You made statements of fact, such as:

"here’s how the domain expiry process works." (might have been better to say "here's how I think").

"Domain ‘expires’, and enters a 40 day grace period" although you qualified this saying it like that gives people the wrong impression of your actual knowledge in this area.

"After the grace period, it enters a 30 day redemption period. Again, apparently this can vary, but I have yet to see it "

You say "it enters" (like a fact) but then say "it can vary, but I haven't seen it yet".

My point isn't to give you a hard time but on HN crowd tends to jump on anything incorrect and it's clear from your summary that you don't have much experience in this area. I've made mistakes when I've said things on HN that I haven't doubled checked or don't know very well. (It's possible of course to even make mistakes on things you know well!)

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#73

Sorry, folks. My bad. The root cause here is that some stuff didn't get handed over properly in the switch from Ryan to me as Node.js manager. So, the emails were indeed going to a non-functioning inbox. It's resolved now, and we're setting it up to auto-renew so that this doesn't happen again.

"setting it up to auto-renew"

Auto renew of course assumes that the credit card on file is current. If the email address is wrong and the cc doesn't work auto-renew obviously will fail. As anyone who has to charge credit cards on a repeat basis might tell you, cc's fail fairly frequently.

Since the domain (any domain) is important it's critical that someone manually also keeps track of the expiration date. And by the way if anyone thinks the answer to this is to renew for the max time period that opens up all sorts of problems in the future when the domain expires and people who were in charge years ago no longer exist and any current people aren't even aware that the domain needs to be renewed. This happens which is why there is an entire part of the domain business catering to what is known as "drop catching" deleted domain names and selling them back to the owners.

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#74
post #60

There is a lot of self-righteous dickishness and schadenfraude in these responses. Proclaiming there to be "NO excuse" to someone who has worked their ass off to create a stellar open-source project really says more about yourself than the person you are attacking. Most certainly there is some sort of explanation, and whether or not it was a terrible mistake, being a jerk about it doesn't relieve you from the terribl…

You have hit on the exact reason why I almost never look at Hacker News any more, except when someone explicitly asks me to respond to something. This site appeals to the absolute worst in everyone. I find myself becoming an asshole every time I come here, and I don't like that feeling.

I don't know about the worst in everyone :). Lots of people still manage to hold their temper. I've certainly gotten snippy here before.

I still come here for great commentary on complex topics, but usually resist the urge to look at comments on gotcha articles like this where I know there is probably nothing constructive to say, so the trollishness comes out.

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#75

Sorry, folks. My bad. The root cause here is that some stuff didn't get handed over properly in the switch from Ryan to me as Node.js manager. So, the emails were indeed going to a non-functioning inbox. It's resolved now, and we're setting it up to auto-renew so that this doesn't happen again.

Isaac, blog.nodejs.org will need CNAME entry recreated as well.

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#76
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's kind of amazing how much certain data (in this case, a record in DNS) comes to mean to people. And how much we come to rely on that little bit of data. And really, how much we trust the DNS system and it's maintainers. "Ruling the world" might be difficult, but "ruling the internet" appears to be a matter of controlling DNS and then mimicking well-known sites well enough to install arbitrary software on every PC…

It's not who controls the spice, its the one who can disrupt the flow.

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Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unlikely. As much as enom sucks I don't think one could misconstrue any of their ineptitude as evil. They do however have the redemption period at inflated prices, but I've never heard of them moving an expired domain to immediate auction. [citation please]

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Enom.aspx Start here.

None of those reference enom directly -- only resellers of enom. That's like saying I bought a widget off amazon & chase paymentech is fraudulent as a result.
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