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Re: Steam Machine

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Post by mayli »

paxys wrote: post #182

A bit too sparse on details. - No price - No indication for whether the CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD are upgradable or all soldered together on the board. - "4K gaming at 60 FPS with FSR" but doesn't mention what kind of games it can run at that quality. - No performance benchmarks, or mention of what the equivalent retail CPU/GPU to their custom one is. At face value this seems like a $500-600 PC, and that's also the price it wo…

Yeah, gemini gives $649 - $699 for BOM, $749+ if they want some margin from the hardware. Which is cheaper than most "Gaming PC", but still more expensive than Switch/PS5, and lack the expandability of PC.

I wish they could sell at $300-$500, that's really going to make this a must have for this year.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by Razengan »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #56

Will it be able to play AAA games with shitty DRM such as Battlefield 6? Not being able to play these huge titles on Linux really sucks!

Look at it this way: Not having to play those money suckers leaves you more time for all the awesome indies out there!

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by lukan »

paulatreides wrote: post #19

"Yes, Steam Machine is optimized for gaming, but it's still your PC. Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer?"

It might be PR speak ... but for me it is working.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by JeremyNT »

paxys wrote: post #182

A bit too sparse on details. - No price - No indication for whether the CPU/GPU/RAM/SSD are upgradable or all soldered together on the board. - "4K gaming at 60 FPS with FSR" but doesn't mention what kind of games it can run at that quality. - No performance benchmarks, or mention of what the equivalent retail CPU/GPU to their custom one is. At face value this seems like a $500-600 PC, and that's also the price it wo…

There are some early previews where people ran some actual games at it[0].

Here are some of their results:

> In Cyberpunk 2077, running at 4K, it’s a surprisingly stable 60fps, albeit with the caveat of that using FSR 3 upscaling on Performance mode with Medium quality settings. But, also: basic ray tracing, something the Deck can’t even think about enabling outside of very specific games.

> The next game I tested, Black Myth: Wukong, is best run with its own RT effects switched off. Still, it also averaged around 60fps on otherwise similar settings: Performance-level FSR 3 upscaling to 4K, plus the Medium quality preset. And, in an almost unnerving repeat performance, Silent Hill f ran close enough to a solid 60fps (with most drops owed to Unreal Engine 5’s signature stuttering) on the Performance-level graphics settings and, once again, FSR 3 running on Performance mode.

[0] https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/hands-on-with-the-new-steam...

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by conor- »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #80
hananova wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All Valve has to do is say “Your software cannot deliberately exclude linux support including kernel anti-cheat to be listed on Steam.” And that would be that, the few devs big enough to make it on their own would leave, and everyone else would adapt.

The games would just leave Steam. The big publishers want their own platforms and launchers anyway.

The big publishers already have their own launcher and platforms and are increasingly moving back onto Steam because they see higher PC player counts and sales when their games are there

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Post by tiberious726 »

whatevaa wrote: post #213
delusional wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm more confused that it's running SteamOS which is supposedly Arch based, but arch doesn't officially support ARM. You have to use the ArchLinuxARM distro for that, which is less maintained. They got to be doing something off label for that.

Arch doesn't support ARM at all. Arm is somebody else hobby project.

You mean valve's?

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Post by bangaladore »

hnuser123456 wrote: post #92
embedding-shape wrote: post #25

The only thing I'd like to know, if the CPU/GPU will be replaceable? The specs say "Semi-custom AMD Zen 4" and "Semi-Custom AMD RDNA3", but I don't see "soldered" anywhere, so I guess maybe they'll be switchable? If not with off-the-shelves components, maybe Valve will offer their own upgrade kits in the future?

Pretty much all (non-Apple) computers in this form factor have a soldered CPU and GPU (and of course soldered VRAM), and slots for DIMMs and M.2.

Unless you made a typo here-- Apple's equivalent to this is Mac Mini, which has soldered CPU, GPU and RAM (and also the SSD as its not soldered, but it's not standard).

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by pie_flavor »

lavela wrote: post #111
clvx wrote: post #33

Valve, please partner with Framework. I think this could be a great partnership in the future and the whole ecosystem as a whole.

[flagged]

Valve most likely cares about more relevant things than idiotic Internet shitfights, such as functional technology, or paying customers.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by ThatPlayer »

AnotherGoodName wrote: post #87
Ekaros wrote: post #6

>RAM 16GB DDR5 + 8GB GDDR6 VRAM Hmm. Not that it is big deal, but I would be somewhat worried about true longevity with the VRAM. Not sure if SteamOS helps there, but on PC some new titles are going over the 8GB VRAM.

It's a very low end Radeon 7000 series. It's absolutely incapable of the highest texture quality and rendering resolutions that need more than 8GB of VRAM. You'll likely never go above 1080p on this card (1440p is going to be rough based on benchmarks of the existing low end 7000 series). There's absolutely no reasonable way to use more than 8GB of VRAM on this card.

No DisplayPort 2.0 is interesting because RDNA3 should support that.

More importantly, FSR4 (currently) doesn't support RDNA3, so you'll be limited on upscaling too.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by ortusdux »

I've been looking at getting a Bee-link box to run as a TV computer and plex server. I'm definitely holding of buying until I see the pricing on this!
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