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Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by astroflection »

willio58 wrote: post #4

I’m still waiting for the day where 100% of state drivers licenses are supported in wallet and anyone requesting ID are required to accept them. Quite literally the only reason I have a wallet these days is for the drivers license.

Nope. I will continue to have a DL card so I can choose to leave my phone at home. When we are required to have our IDs on our person at all times I can at least not be tracked everywhere I go.

Be watchful for legislation requiring: * us to have our ID on our person at all times. * IDs to be issued in digital format only.

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by chiph »

> They will also be asked to use their iPhone to read the chip embedded on the back of their passport to ensure the data’s authenticity.

I installed an RFID app from the Apple app store (3rd party, not from Apple) and it couldn't read the chip in my passport. Perhaps Apple's firmware was filtering those out at the time?

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by sublimefire »

There was a post from trailofbits blog recently about how passport crypto works. Kind of related here.

I wonder if this is some zero knowledge proofs here or what? Reading the passport and its chip implies some terminal authentication capabilities coming from Apple devices. Passport would not allow reading sensitive data from the chip unless the terminal is valid.

Another question is if Apple is allowed to read your biometric data?

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by bitpush »

xd1936 wrote: post #12

I am never handing my phone to a cop.

I get what you're saying, but if you think of it what we're doing today - handing over the one and only official piece of document to a) cop b) club bouncer etc.

They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibilty.

You could argue, a sufficiently locked down phone is a better alternative. If they do something, you'll only lose $$

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by barbazoo »

bitpush wrote: post #15
xd1936 wrote: post #12

I am never handing my phone to a cop.

I get what you're saying, but if you think of it what we're doing today - handing over the one and only official piece of document to a) cop b) club bouncer etc. They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibilty. You could argue, a sufficiently locked down phone is a better alternative. If they do something, you'll only lose $$

> They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibility.

But they can't potentially look at your banking app, read private notes, messages and emails, operate your home automation, look at your calendar, etc. if all they have is a plastic card.

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by therein »

bitpush wrote: post #15
xd1936 wrote: post #12

I am never handing my phone to a cop.

I get what you're saying, but if you think of it what we're doing today - handing over the one and only official piece of document to a) cop b) club bouncer etc. They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibilty. You could argue, a sufficiently locked down phone is a better alternative. If they do something, you'll only lose $$

I feel exactly the opposite about what you said. The ID is just an ID, my phone is my phone with other stuff in it.

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by ayntkilove »

bitpush wrote: post #15
xd1936 wrote: post #12

I am never handing my phone to a cop.

I get what you're saying, but if you think of it what we're doing today - handing over the one and only official piece of document to a) cop b) club bouncer etc. They can hold onto it, and never return it. They can deface it. All of that is a possibilty. You could argue, a sufficiently locked down phone is a better alternative. If they do something, you'll only lose $$

... and if they hold the document upside down they can see your browser history and with a UV flashlight they can quick scan your app list for intel.

Re: Digital ID, a new way to create and present an ID in Apple Wallet

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Post by Clent »

phantom784 wrote: post #5

Google Wallet supports this as well, but not for passports, only select state drivers licenses. https://support.google.com/wallet/answer/12436402?hl=en I wonder if passports will come to Google soon as well - that'd open it up nationwide as long as you have a passport.

Apple also supports select state drivers license.

I would definitely expect Google to follow quickly.

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