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It is apparently "Grossly Overestimate The Reliance of Companies on Open Software and Systems Week" and nobody told me.
Name one company that doesn't depend on NTP.
I refuse to donate. Trillion dollar companies depend leech on it and yet refuse to spend money on it. Let it fail and see what happens.
Trillion dollar companies run their own NTP servers
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2022/11/amazon-ti...
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Who's running ntpsec?
At least in part, someone you really don't want to be running a fork of an important project: ESR.
I am vaguely aware he has some unpopular political beliefs (though exactly what I don't know). Is that it?
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Large tech companies and free-riding critical internet commons, name a better duo.
That would be easily solved by blocking from NTP any ip address belonging to a big tech corp that doesn't pony up.
You can use the public Google or AWS pools if you want. Note that they have their own software, too, so be sure you understand the differences like leap smearing.
Blocking FAANG IPs from the NTP Foundation’s pools wouldn’t hurt FAANG at all. It would only hurt people who weren’t aware and used the NTP Foundation’s pool for things.
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It is apparently "Grossly Overestimate The Reliance of Companies on Open Software and Systems Week" and nobody told me.
Name one company that doesn't depend on NTP.
The big companies who use NTP have their own pools and either use versions of different ntp implantations or their own internal ones.
All of these comments assuming cloud providers are using the reference NTP implementation and the public pools have no idea what they’re talking about.
Why not just turn it off and say we need money to turn it in again?
That might work, but the second order effect would probably be companies trying to do the work of time synchronisation themselves in case it happened again. That would lead to fragmentation and incompatibility.
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This sounds like a problem where cryptocurrency could actually be the solution. Next time I want to make a charitable donation I will ask for an XMR address to preserve my privacy and work around commercial payment processor issues.
I was thinking the same. Seems HN is now pro-bank and anti-cryptocurrency.
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Who's running ntpsec?
The major Linux distributions replaced ntp with ntpsec. A better question would be who is still running ntp. I know about FreeBSD and NetBSD. ntpsec as a project seems to be doing ok. They are releasing new versions, fix reported issues, accept patches, and develop the code publicly. While ntp still has a huge list of acknowledged but unfixed CVEs.
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100% true, but they shouldn't have to. If FAANG is using it, they should fund it. I don't want to work in a culture where the employees pay for the corporations' tools.
Say this louder for the managers in the back! I’m sick of having to pay for my own tools to do my job at your company. Either find a way to build using free tools or fork up the license for that Visual Studio Ultimate or IntelliJ Idea Ultimate license. Pay for your database vendor. Your corporate IdP. Why not $300/yr for a high value output employee?