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Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by reaperducer »

kavith wrote: post #16
bschne wrote: post #10

The same thing happened to German magazine Spiegel recently, see the correction remark at the end of this article https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/deutsche-bahn-...

Fair play to them for owning up to their mistake, and not just pretending like it didn't happen!

Fair play to them for owning up to their mistake, and not just pretending like it didn't happen!

That's what the legitimate media has done for the last couple of hundred years. Every issue of the New York Times has a Corrections section. I think the Washington Post's is called Corrections and Amplifications.

Bloggers just change the article and hope it didn't get cached in the Wayback Machine.

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by pixelpoet »

nicbou wrote: post #4
FatalLogic wrote: post #2

The online edition was edited later. "This newspaper report was originally edited using AI, which is in violation of Dawn’s current AI policy. The policy is also available on our website. The report also carried some junk, which has now been edited out. The matter is being investigated. The violation of AI policy is regretted. — Editor" https://www.dawn.com/news/1954574 edit: Text link of the printed edition. Might n…

> The violation of AI policy is regretted. That's a good example of when you shouldn't use passive voice.

> This door is alarmed

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by dredmorbius »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #26
chrismorgan wrote: post #5

The current title (“Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article”) isn’t correct, it wasn’t the prompt that was printed, but trailing chatbot fluff: > If you want, I can also create an even snappier “front-page style” version with punchy one-line stats and a bold, infographic-ready layout—perfect for maximum reader impact. Do you want me to do that next? The article in question is titled “Auto sal…

For years, both the financial and sports news sides of things have generated increasingly templated "articles", this just feels like the latest iteration.

This dates back to at least the late 1990s for financial reports. A friend demoed such a system to me at that time.

Much statistically-based news (finance, business reports, weather, sport, disasters, astronomical events) are heavily formulaic and can at least in large part or initial report be automated, which speeds information dissemination.

Of course, it's also possible to distribute raw data tables, charts, or maps, which ... mainstream news organisations seem phenomenally averse to doing. Even "better" business-heavy publications (FT, Economist, Bloomberg, WSJ) do so quite sparingly.

A few days ago I was looking at a Reuters report on a strategic chokepoint north of the Philippines which it and the US are looking toward to help contain possible Chinese naval operations. Lots of pictures of various equipment, landscapes, and people. Zero maps. Am disappoint.

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by thoroughburro »

throwaway638637 wrote: post #21
nicbou wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The violation of AI policy is regretted. That's a good example of when you shouldn't use passive voice.

That's just a manner of speaking in former British colonies, or at least the subcontinent. Much of formal speech like a bureaucrat wrote it because, well, the civil service ran India and that's who everyone emulated.

> That's just a manner of speaking in former British colonies, or at least the subcontinent.

Which is still a good example of when you shouldn't use passive voice.

Clarifying where “optimising language to evade a responsibility” evolved does nothing to justify it, which you imply with “that’s just”.

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by hbarka »

throwaway638637 wrote: post #21
nicbou wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The violation of AI policy is regretted. That's a good example of when you shouldn't use passive voice.

That's just a manner of speaking in former British colonies, or at least the subcontinent. Much of formal speech like a bureaucrat wrote it because, well, the civil service ran India and that's who everyone emulated.

It’s still passive voice, the kind used when trying to avoid blame or responsibility. So pretty much fits in bureaucratic places.

That’s just…mistakes were made.

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by dredmorbius »

bschne wrote: post #10

The same thing happened to German magazine Spiegel recently, see the correction remark at the end of this article https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/unternehmen/deutsche-bahn-...

Scientific paper as well: https://fediscience.org/@GeorgKrammer/115536337398227063>

Original https://doi.org/10.1016/j.surfin.2024.104081> and retraction: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.surfin.2024.104081>.

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by nomdep »

nashashmi wrote: post #18
wg0 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you, yes that's accurate and I am not sure if article itself is accurate. Don't think so it would have no incorrect stats. By "AI prompt" I mean "prompted by AI" Edit: Note about prompt's nature.

It might be better to mention “Dawn newspaper” instead of “Pakistani newspaper”.

Only Pakistanis knew from where the Dawn newspaper is, so the current title is more informative

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by hagbarth »

sph wrote: post #27
ineedasername wrote: post #13

When reached for comment on how this occurred, the journalist in question replied: “This is the perfect question that gets to the heart of this issue. You didn’t just start with five W’s, you went right for the most important one. Let’s examine why that question works so well in this instance…”

Now I’ll have to look out for news posts that have a question in the title and begin with “Great question!”

"You're absolutely right!"

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by dwringer »

layer8 wrote: post #11
chrismorgan wrote: post #5

The current title (“Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article”) isn’t correct, it wasn’t the prompt that was printed, but trailing chatbot fluff: > If you want, I can also create an even snappier “front-page style” version with punchy one-line stats and a bold, infographic-ready layout—perfect for maximum reader impact. Do you want me to do that next? The article in question is titled “Auto sal…

The AI is prompting the human here, so the title isn't strictly wrong. ;)

Gemini has been doing this to me for the past few weeks at the end of basically every single response now, and it often seems to result in the subsequent responses getting off track and lower quality as all these extra tangets start polluting the context. Not to mention how distracting it is as it throws off the reply I was already halfway in the middle of composing by the time I read it.

Re: Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article

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Post by cantor_S_drug »

michaelbuckbee wrote: post #26
chrismorgan wrote: post #5

The current title (“Pakistani newspaper mistakenly prints AI prompt with the article”) isn’t correct, it wasn’t the prompt that was printed, but trailing chatbot fluff: > If you want, I can also create an even snappier “front-page style” version with punchy one-line stats and a bold, infographic-ready layout—perfect for maximum reader impact. Do you want me to do that next? The article in question is titled “Auto sal…

For years, both the financial and sports news sides of things have generated increasingly templated "articles", this just feels like the latest iteration.

Not just that we know from heavy reddit posters that they have branching universe templates for all eventualities, so that they are "ready" whatever the outcome.
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