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Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#51
I remember when QuickTime came out in 1991 and it was obvious to everyone that video should be copied, pasted and saved like any arbitrary data.

It's absolutely insane to me how bad the user experience is with video nowadays, even video that's not encumbered by DRM or complex JavaScript clients.

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#52
post #31

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Netflix is already there for 4k streams

And it's an entirely useless effort. No idea how it is done but the internet is full 4k rips.

They find devices that are easy to hack (and I mean rip and tear) and extract the decryption keys from each of them, from what I have heard cheap chinese tvs and set top boxes, they extract the keys from the chips (hardware hacking, heard some even use microscopes to read the keys by hand), and then use them to decrypt streams, I heard that they catch them pretty fast to they use like 1 device per season. This is why they use mostly stollen devices.

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#53

Perhaps a stupid question, but is there some reason I can't potentially fall back to recording my screen / audio in realtime and saving videos that way? yt-dlp is obviously far superior to this, but just thinking about what my fallback points are.

I don't know if Youtube cares, but other website do attempt to block this as well. They will either black your screen or prevent playback if you try to screen record, even encrypting to prevent recording the HDMI/DP output.

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think it’s such a wild possibility that more and more jobs will be able to be done with locked down tablets and smart phone while fewer will be done on laptops and desktops. We are already seeing it at the personal level - people are entirely forgoing personal computers and using mobile devices exclusively. The amount isn’t huge (like 10 or 15% in the US IIRC?) but 10 years ago that was unthinkable IMO. I was…

Just because the balance shifts doesn't mean the desktop/laptop stops being supported. Laptops aren't going anywhere. Even if phones and tablets replace them for a third of tasks, or a third of people. The idea that laptops with browsers would become so rare that YouTube would drop support, within any reasonably predictable future timeframe, is pure fantasy.

All the ewaste MS generated w/Win11 min requirements… I’m thinking that kinda maneuver. Eh not really but anyways:

A slow dropping of support for those who aren’t using an app or Chrome with some Play(Video) Integrity Extension installed.

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#55
post #3

In ten years time YouTube will be entirely inaccessible from the browser as the iPad kids generation are used to doomscrolling the tablet app and Google feels confident enough to cut off the aging demographic.

This is obviously not plausible. They're never going to shut off browser access on people's laptops. Watching YT at work is a major thing. I have to assume you're joking, but I honestly can't figure out what point you're even trying to make. Do it think it's surprising that an ad-supported site has anti-scraping/anti-downloading mechanisms? YouTube isn't a charity, it's not Wikipedia.

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Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#56
post #34

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>Watching YT at work is a major thing. Where are these jobs where I can get paid to watch YouTube?

Lots of people listen to the audio. It’s like a podcast, or having the radio on, which is fine in lots and lots of jobs. Some people probably also literally watch it, but I know multiple people who basically use it as a radio at work. Plus, never worked anywhere where half of everyone, including management, is more-or-less openly watching sports more than working during major tournaments?

And nobody's saying you're getting paid to watch YouTube all day. But video links get sent around, and people check out whatever 3 minute video. They watch during lunch. You know how it is.

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#57
post #3

In ten years time YouTube will be entirely inaccessible from the browser as the iPad kids generation are used to doomscrolling the tablet app and Google feels confident enough to cut off the aging demographic.

I hope they will do that, yes really.

Because this will mean major shift to open-source and community solution, where creators will be paid directly by their viewers.

I have NO problem, what so ever, to pay content creators directly.

But I have HUGE problem to pay big corpos. It's ridiculous that we pay for Netflix same price as US people and for you it's cheaper than coffee and for us, if you compare median-salary, it's 5-10x MORE expensive. (cancelled every streaming platform year before as all of my friends, cloud seedbox here we go) And I don't even wanna mention Netflix's agenda they want to push (eg.: Witcher)

That's why piracy is so frequent here in small country in EU :) Also it's legal or in grey-area, because nobody enforce it or copyright companies are unable to enforce it if you don't make money from sharing. (yes, you don't even need to use VPN with torrents)

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#58
post #36

I use yt-dlp (and back then youtube-dl) all the time to archive my liked videos. Started back in around 2010, now I have tens of thousands of videos saved. Storage is cheap and a huge percent of them are not available anymore on the site. I also save temporary videos removed after a time for example NHK honbasho sumo highlights which are only available for a month or so then they permanently remove them.

Do you ever go back and actually watch those videos? Whenever I start to journal, track, or just document something, after some time I notice again and again that most of the value has already been created the moment I finish working on a specific entry. Even with something seemingly very important like medical records. Maybe one exception I can think of are recordings of memories involving people close to you

Re: Yt-dlp: External JavaScript runtime now required for full YouTube support

#59
post #45

yt-dlp feels like a whole army fighting Google. Users reporting and the army performs.

If by army you mean underfunded open source volunteers then yes.

That's the point, they don't have the fund but still give the sense of fight and power of an army.
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