Live data from Hacker News

Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

ntp.org

11–20 of 242 posts

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#11
post #9
post #2

I am surprised that NTP project is not funded, fully or partially, by larger organizations or governments, given the criticality of the project.

It's not really clear why they need this money either?

> It's not really clear why they need this money either?

Really? The sentence at the top of the Donate page seems pretty clear to me:

> Your donation helps Network Time Foundation maintain the NTP website and provide resources and support to NTP developers.

Is it unclear to you?

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#12
post #2

I am surprised that NTP project is not funded, fully or partially, by larger organizations or governments, given the criticality of the project.

The Network Time Foundation (which counts the NTP project among those it provides resources to) lists several corporate Members.

But yeah, critical infrastructure usually goes criminally underfunded.

Re: Please donate to keep Network Time Protocol up – Goal 1k

#20
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really clear why they need this money either?

> It's not really clear why they need this money either? Really? The sentence at the top of the Donate page seems pretty clear to me: > Your donation helps Network Time Foundation maintain the NTP website and provide resources and support to NTP developers. Is it unclear to you?

It is kind of vague IMO. Especially since most of the actual NTP infrastructure is run by governments, universities, and companies.

https://gist.github.com/mutin-sa/eea1c396b1e610a2da1e5550d94...

But..it's $1k. This is basically pocket change on an institutional level. I've been part of some very scrappy and poorly funded community organizations and even they took in more than $1k every year. Even if you don't believe NTP maintainers should be paid anything for their work (an opinion I don't hold), it's trivial to spend this amount on modest everyday expenses like renting a venue a couple of times, buying insurance, and paying for hosting and technical resources.

EDIT: Here is their 2024 tax return

https://www.nwtime.org/about/documents/2024_NTF_IRS_990.pdf

It looks like they took in more than $200k and spent $100k on "contract services" (I can't tell what that means) and somewhat modest amounts on other things. Unfortunately I need to exit the rabbit hole now.

Post reply on HN