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Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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What is the exact job of the mayor of London then?

Buying and selling cats for profit, since 1423. For the people that don't know the City of London history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Whittington_and_His_Cat

That’s the Lord Mayor of London. The Mayor of London is The head of the Greater London Authority (which is not a city). No, it is not confusing.

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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For further confusion, ‘London’ does not exist at all as a well defined entity and the UK has no de jure capital.

For even further confusion "London" actually contains two cities: London and Westminster. London was a walled city but Westminster was not. So "London" was we know it today is more like Westminster than London.

What about Southwark?

That has a cathedral too.

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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There is a London Wall Walk, starting at the Tower of London. Text copied from the plaques at the postern: (thanks Google Lens) > The London Wall Walk follows the original line of the City Wall for much of its length, from the royal fortress of the Tower of London to the Museum of London, situated in the modern high-rise development of the Barbican. Between these two landmarks the Wall Walk passes surviving pieces of…

> The Walk is 134 miles (2.8km) long and … Completion of the Walk will take between one and two hours Sorry, this is suggesting I can walk over a hundred miles in 1-2 hours ???

If you look at the actual document it's 1¾ miles, which seems to have been incorrectly OCRed or copy-pasted.

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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> ground level then was a few metres lower than now What?! That's huge. What happened?

If you leave ground alone all sort of things grow on it or lay on it. Dirt, mud, leaves etc. Soil grows at about 1 mm per year. 1 meter in 1000 years. Historically cities were hit by floods and wars and new buildings were built on top of the foundations of old ones. We had an article about that church in Rome built over another roman church built over another roman church, etc. down to an old temple on a spring, or s…

Sounds like Basilica of San Clemente[1][2]. One of the many many many "hidden" gems of Rome. Highly recommend visiting it!

Or you can go on a virtual tour[3]

[1] https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/

[2] https://maps.app.goo.gl/zpXpQuxQLUvE5TLA9

[3] https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/a-virtual-tour/

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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I had a hard time remembering that distinction when I first read about the "City of London". Here is the US, the "city of Chicago" is the same as "Chicago".

For further confusion, ‘London’ does not exist at all as a well defined entity and the UK has no de jure capital.

For further confusion there are two cities within the (historical) county of London - the city of Westminster and the city of London.

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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For even further confusion "London" actually contains two cities: London and Westminster. London was a walled city but Westminster was not. So "London" was we know it today is more like Westminster than London.

What about Southwark? That has a cathedral too.

A cathedral is neither necessary nor sufficient for city status. City status in the UK is given by the monarch and that's all there is to it. Cambridge is a city without a cathedral and Bury St Edmunds is a town with a cathedral.

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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> That car park in image [4] is wild. The juxtaposition of a mundane parking

Meh.

Let me introduce you to Colchester, the oldest recorded town in the UK. The wall behind the carpark you see here is the original Roman wall (circa 65 AD) with modern brick on top... (The tourist sign is in the foreground if you zoom in). The walls were built after the city was sacked by the rebel queen Boudica in 60 AD.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.887807,0.9045163,3a,81.3y,...?

Oh, and if you rotate the streetview 180 degrees, between the trees you can make out the ruins of St Botolph's Priory, sacked during the dissolution of the monasteries in 1536 AD. It's a nice place for a lunchtime picnic.

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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If you leave ground alone all sort of things grow on it or lay on it. Dirt, mud, leaves etc. Soil grows at about 1 mm per year. 1 meter in 1000 years. Historically cities were hit by floods and wars and new buildings were built on top of the foundations of old ones. We had an article about that church in Rome built over another roman church built over another roman church, etc. down to an old temple on a spring, or s…

Sounds like Basilica of San Clemente[1][2]. One of the many many many "hidden" gems of Rome. Highly recommend visiting it! Or you can go on a virtual tour[3] [1] https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/ [2] https://maps.app.goo.gl/zpXpQuxQLUvE5TLA9 [3] https://www.basilicasanclemente.com/eng/a-virtual-tour/

Thanks! And this is the article I remember https://www.exurbe.com/the-shape-of-rome/

Re: Four strange places to see London's Roman Wall

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> That car park in image [4] is wild. The juxtaposition of a mundane parking Meh. Let me introduce you to Colchester, the oldest recorded town in the UK. The wall behind the carpark you see here is the original Roman wall (circa 65 AD) with modern brick on top... (The tourist sign is in the foreground if you zoom in). The walls were built after the city was sacked by the rebel queen Boudica in 60 AD. https://www.goog…

> Let me introduce you to Colchester, the oldest recorded town in the UK.

And a candidate for the location of Camelot, thanks to its Roman name, Camulodunum.

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