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Re: The Department of War just shot the accountants and opted for speed

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Post by moomin »

waste_monk wrote: post #178
aerostable_slug wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is you have these hugely expensive facilities like the tank plant in Lima that's pretty much only good for making tanks. Transitioning manufacturing to production lines that can be economically kept online because they make non-tank products when we're not fighting anyone is the way to go. There's a ton of work going on in this area, and has been for a while (check out DARPA's AVM project for some of it).

Or, simply open up the sales of tanks to the civilian market. That's a joke, of course, but even if they were demilitarised variants there'd probably still be a market for it.

I’ve never really understood how the logic of the second amendment doesn’t extend to tanks and nukes.

Re: The Department of War just shot the accountants and opted for speed

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Post by kakacik »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #186
Loughla wrote: post #115

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The ada.gov website has a banner that reads, "Democrats have shut down the government. Department of Justice websites are not currently regularly updated." Trump is the king. Edit: To be clear, I think it's complete and utter garbage. I'm assuming people think I think it's a good thing? It's not a good thing. At all.

It's garbage and also illegal. He probably won't get what he deserves since nature will likely get to him first at this rate. Hut there will be a reckoning one day when this alls shifts. I think that's the most likely scenario, but I'm open to two others: - this escalates and we enter Civil War. How things play out from there is unimaginable since there's so many other attack vectors in a civil war with a super power…

... and the most probable scenario - this is new normal, US slides mildly into fascist dictatorship ruled by elite who doesn't even try to hide its status and control, but maintains enough momentum of the past to keep it afloat at/around the top with China as a cca peer. Less actual military power but better overall economy shape. Its not like US is a champion of real democracy for decades, not if you compare it to places like Switzerland.

Lets not forget half of US population knew pretty well what they voted for and went on ahead full speed, in 'fuck it' or 'fuck'em' mentality.

Re: The Department of War just shot the accountants and opted for speed

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

rpmisms wrote: post #152
netsharc wrote: post #78

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Funny how we can tell now whether the other person is a Kool-Aid drinker by how they refer to things. Gulf of Mexico, or Gulf of America?

Department of War is far more honest. The Gulf name doesn't mean anything, it's a joke and we all know it.

It's not a joke and I don't know it. Trump is gradually demanding the authority to control every aspect of American life, and you're enabling it by not taking his entry-level steps seriously. I hope you'll realize your mistake while he's still stuck on relatively harmless things.

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Post by kchoudhu »

Y-bar wrote: post #144
chiph wrote: post #41

> Design For Rapid Scale In a Crisis One of the things that I think Anduril (Palmer Luckey and other founders) is doing right is designing for manufacturability. The invasion of Ukraine has shown that future conflicts will use up weapons at a very high pace. And that the US capability to build them at the rate needed to sustain conflict isn't there anymore. But that one thing that could help is making them easier to…

What’s up with Maga people using LotR names for their military/panopticon companies? Anduril, Palantir, Lembas have I seen so far.

It's the only book they've read, most likely.

Re: The Department of War just shot the accountants and opted for speed

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #108
aussieguy1234 wrote: post #88

Get ready for the Department Of Corruption

You think it wasn't corrupt previously?

There's just no comparison. The current administration routinely, publicly, accepts literal bars of gold as bribes for favorable treatment. Trump just got a new one from Switzerland this week.

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Post by mmooss »

p_l wrote: post #257
mmooss wrote: post #243

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What evidence is there of that? And without the F-35B, what would be flown by the US Marines, and by most other countries' aircraft carriers, all of which require vertical take-off and landing?

Late addition of VTOL variant on mandates common airframe when it was well known that only Lockheed had anything in pipeline that could match the requirements and even then -B meant delays and issues due to inherent complexity of VTOL (to the point Britain nearly canceled the order for -B, only finding out it was too late to refit Queen Elizabeth carriers with CATOBAR kept the purchase afloat) Reality is that VTOL mo…

That is a theory, but the evidence is that VTOL F-35s are needed and used widely.

> -B meant delays and issues

The -B was the first of the three variants to become operational.

Re: The Department of War just shot the accountants and opted for speed

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Post by scandox »

mmooss wrote: post #247
Y-bar wrote: post #144

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What’s up with Maga people using LotR names for their military/panopticon companies? Anduril, Palantir, Lembas have I seen so far.

It's especially interesting because their philosophy is the opposite of Tolkien's. They seek power at all costs, trying to create 'rings' and dallying with bad people. One common rhetorical tactic, commonly used by their political allies, is to use their (perceived) enemies' most powerful words and ideas against them, to disarm and counter-attack. 'Woke' was a term on the left; racism became descrimination against wh…

I don't know what Tolkien's personal philosophy was but I think a reasonable reading of LOTR would put it at centre right. The culture it valorizes has military capability and heroism at its core.

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Post by p_l »

mmooss wrote: post #276
p_l wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Late addition of VTOL variant on mandates common airframe when it was well known that only Lockheed had anything in pipeline that could match the requirements and even then -B meant delays and issues due to inherent complexity of VTOL (to the point Britain nearly canceled the order for -B, only finding out it was too late to refit Queen Elizabeth carriers with CATOBAR kept the purchase afloat) Reality is that VTOL mo…

That is a theory, but the evidence is that VTOL F-35s are needed and used widely. > -B meant delays and issues The -B was the first of the three variants to become operational.

For very special meaning of operational that could be summarized as "USMC could not allow it to fail".

And the delays were on the whole project due to forced commonality (in addition to L-M being L-M)

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Post by LarsDu88 »

canucker2016 wrote: post #217
LarsDu88 wrote: post #170

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Back in the day, Lockheed could move very quickly. The P-38 went from proposal to working prototype between February 1937 and January 1939. But there was a cost. Test pilots died The top American fighter pilot of WW2, Richard Bong was killed test piloting the Lockheed P80 jet fighter.

Kelly Johnson, head of Lockheed's Skunk Works, worked on the P-38 (as well as U-2, Blackbird, and the F-117A). He had a list of rules for managing the design of aircraft. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Johnson_(engineer)#Kelly... . There's an unwritten 15th rule (from the above-mentioned webpage): "Starve before doing business with the damned Navy. They don't know what the hell they want and will drive you u…

Rule 14 is pretty interesting. Keep the teams small and reward performance with compensation. Don't just reward increasing headcount. Could improve things at so many tech companies today.

Re: The Department of War just shot the accountants and opted for speed

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

thaunatos wrote: post #68
Hizonner wrote: post #67

The United States does not have a "Department of War".

It does. https://www.war.gov/

Departments are created by acts of Congress. Not because a wannabe dictator registered a domain name.
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