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Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

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Post by yoda_sl »

dj2stein9 wrote: post #6
aelaguiz wrote: post #3

Wow, what recourse is available in this situation? None? Does this mean that 100% they are going to now be blackmailed to get their domain back?

Usually there's a grace period where the owner can still renew it, and before anyone else can. If the domain actually expired 60 or 90 days ago then they're probably hosed.

Yes you are correct about that... It happened to me once on an old domain and I was able to get it back in the following week after expiration but I don't recall seeing a parked page during that period of time.

Doing a quick Whois for nodejs.org show that the name is expiring today:

Domain ID:D157222203-LROR

Domain Name:NODEJS.ORG

Created On:29-Sep-2009 14:50:55 UTC

Last Updated On:20-Sep-2011 00:04:23 UTC

Expiration Date:29-Sep-2012 14:50:55 UTC

Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. (R39-LROR)

Status:OK

Ouch!

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#12

Post by sturadnidge »

aelaguiz wrote: post #3

Wow, what recourse is available in this situation? None? Does this mean that 100% they are going to now be blackmailed to get their domain back?

Shouldn't be anything to worry about - here’s how the domain expiry process works.

1. Domain ‘expires’, and enters a 40 day grace period. I have read things that imply this can vary from registrar to registrar, but it seems pretty standard from what I have seen.

2. After the grace period, it enters a 30 day redemption period. Again, apparently this can vary, but I have yet to see it (admittedly I have only looked at a small number of domains)

3. Finally, when the redemption period expires, a 5 day ‘pending deletion’ period is entered.

Between 11am and 2pm Pacific Time on the 6th day of pending deletion, the registrars theoretically start dropping the names from the ICANN database.

It is kind of odd that such a domain would only be renewed annually... it's hardly speculative!

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

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Post by binarymax »

I know people make mistakes and overlook things, but really...there is no excuse for this. I get about 8 emails from my registrars warning me before a domain expires...60 days, 45 days, 30 days, 1 week, then one like every day until the date. Unless these emails are going to an address nobody is monitoring I can't see how this can get overlooked.

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#16

Post by deweller »

whois nodejs.org

  Registrant Name:Ryan  Dahl
  Registrant Organization:Joyent
  Registrant Street1:345 California St Suite 2000
  Registrant City:San Francisco
  Registrant State/Province:CA
  Registrant Postal Code:94104
  Registrant Country:US
  Registrant Email:ryan@joyent.com

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#17

Post by ck2 »

It used to be possible to pay for other people's domains (they still own it, you are just gifting the payment).

Someone once renewed a hotmail domain after Microsoft forgot.

Registrars should allowing gifting, source doesn't matter.

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

#18

Post by dj2stein9 »

calvinlough wrote: post #9
dj2stein9 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually there's a grace period where the owner can still renew it, and before anyone else can. If the domain actually expired 60 or 90 days ago then they're probably hosed.

According to WHOIS, the expiration date is 29-Sep-2012 14:50:55 UTC.

But it's still registered to Ryan Dahl/Joyent, so it probably can still be renewed.

Re: Someone forgot to renew NodeJS.org

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Post by Karunamon »

yoda_sl wrote: post #11
dj2stein9 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Usually there's a grace period where the owner can still renew it, and before anyone else can. If the domain actually expired 60 or 90 days ago then they're probably hosed.

Yes you are correct about that... It happened to me once on an old domain and I was able to get it back in the following week after expiration but I don't recall seeing a parked page during that period of time. Doing a quick Whois for nodejs.org show that the name is expiring today: Domain ID:D157222203-LROR Domain Name:NODEJS.ORG Created On:29-Sep-2009 14:50:55 UTC Last Updated On:20-Sep-2011 00:04:23 UTC Expiration…

eNom does all kinds of shady shenanigans with domain renewals. There are stories of names going up on their auction block the moment the registration expires (meaning someone has to pay a greatly inflated amount of cash to reclaim the name)
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