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Re: .NET 10

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Post by jitbit »

catlover76 wrote: post #4
jitbit wrote: post #2

For us, every .NET upgrade since .NET 5 has gone surprisingly smoothly and reduced CPU/RAM usage by 10–15%. We were even able to downgrade our cloud servers to smaller instances, literally. I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma.

> I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma. There's that, but there's also the developer experience and functionality for people to run it on Mac and Linux. We have a small C# service that we run locally via Docker (which I think is usually the optimal setup anyways) and develop with VSCode. Since it's small, it has worked well. Would it work well if that was ou…

I'm founder of a 100% .NET based company (15 years, 1mil LOC), all development happens on Macs, production servers run linux. No issues so far.

No, really, I'm facing more issues from Cursor based based on a year-old upstream version of VSCode than from this, heh...

Re: .NET 10

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Post by vintagedave »

jitbit wrote: post #2

For us, every .NET upgrade since .NET 5 has gone surprisingly smoothly and reduced CPU/RAM usage by 10–15%. We were even able to downgrade our cloud servers to smaller instances, literally. I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma.

.Net is also good as a platform for other languages. I recently started working with RemObjects, and you can compile languages like Java, Swift, Go and more (VB, Pascal) to .Net. Then, the whole framework and ecosystem is available. I'm liking it a lot.

They have customers who are startups and the 'got to have tools' folk like having lots of languages since they can onboard people who know anything-not-C# and benefit from the .Net library.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by clintmcmahon »

catlover76 wrote: post #4
jitbit wrote: post #2

For us, every .NET upgrade since .NET 5 has gone surprisingly smoothly and reduced CPU/RAM usage by 10–15%. We were even able to downgrade our cloud servers to smaller instances, literally. I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma.

> I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma. There's that, but there's also the developer experience and functionality for people to run it on Mac and Linux. We have a small C# service that we run locally via Docker (which I think is usually the optimal setup anyways) and develop with VSCode. Since it's small, it has worked well. Would it work well if that was ou…

There used to be a Visual Studio for Mac (since retired) but they never could get it right in comparison to the Windows version.

VS Code on a Mac works great and with the ability to run SQL Server in Docker you can have the old stack right there on your Mac.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by randyburden »

jitbit wrote: post #2

For us, every .NET upgrade since .NET 5 has gone surprisingly smoothly and reduced CPU/RAM usage by 10–15%. We were even able to downgrade our cloud servers to smaller instances, literally. I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma.

For what it's worth, the startup I currently work for is built entirely in C# and .NET, as was my previous employer. Both startups are based in the Dallas, TX area. Across both companies, applications were hosted on Azure and AWS using a mix of PaaS services and virtual machines running Windows and Linux. We've consistently found this stack to enable strong productivity and high-velocity release cadences.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by cebert »

phillipcarter wrote: post #10
leetharris wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma. Too hard to ignore the benefits of cross-stack gains in Typescript/Python. The C# native phone, Blazor, etc just isn't quite there yet. Tried it at the last company, and full stack TS was just so much easier to do. The reality is that the vast majority of startups don't make it. The #1 thing startups should be focusing…

Is it though? Backends can be any language and there's a lot more variety there -- TS+node, Go, Python, Java. It's just .NET that's largely ignored for no real technical basis.

You can easily use the same types and libraries in your backend and frontend with TypeScript. It’s not at easy with dotnet.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by tomhow »

jve wrote: post #16

How come this quickly fell off main page and is ranked 395 right now? Don't know how trustworthy is this but it seems like it never was on top30: https://hnrankings.info/45888620/ This has 74 upvotes and posted 16hrs ago.. @dang?

It looks like it was hit by some software penalties that lowered it in the rankings more than it should have been, then it just continued dropping.

I've restored it to the front page and wound back the clock so it gets its rightful dose of front page time.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by phito »

cebert wrote: post #15
phillipcarter wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it though? Backends can be any language and there's a lot more variety there -- TS+node, Go, Python, Java. It's just .NET that's largely ignored for no real technical basis.

You can easily use the same types and libraries in your backend and frontend with TypeScript. It’s not at easy with dotnet.

OpenAPI and client generators solve this issue easily.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by phito »

catlover76 wrote: post #4
jitbit wrote: post #2

For us, every .NET upgrade since .NET 5 has gone surprisingly smoothly and reduced CPU/RAM usage by 10–15%. We were even able to downgrade our cloud servers to smaller instances, literally. I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma.

> I wish .NET was more popular among startups, if only C# could get rid of the "enterpisey" stigma. There's that, but there's also the developer experience and functionality for people to run it on Mac and Linux. We have a small C# service that we run locally via Docker (which I think is usually the optimal setup anyways) and develop with VSCode. Since it's small, it has worked well. Would it work well if that was ou…

I have a much better dev experience on Linux/Rider than on Windows/VS.

Re: .NET 10

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Post by [deleted] »

nozzlegear wrote: post #7

As a daily user of F#, I'm most looking forward to the support for "and!" in computation expressions. There are a few performance-critical pieces of code I can think of that are currently wrapped up in "Task.WhenAll" / "Parallel.ForEachAsync" that I'd like to extract back into "native" F# task computations.

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