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Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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I am not a lawyer or diplomat or expert on trade, but I can make some general observations from an American/Western perspective:

First, the sanctions on Iran are such that any partnership with an Iranian person for business reasons is effectively impossible in the West, without the resources of a multi-million or billion-dollar company to circumvent them. The author says "I am not looking for anyone to bypass sanctions" but that is very obviously exactly what they are asking for.

Second, circumventing sanctions is illegal, and people regularly go to prison or are given massive monetary fines for this. OP, I don't question your motives, but you need to understand that people have literally gone to prison and lost their whole livelihoods for doing exactly what you are asking.

Therefore, posting this on a Western platform (Github) and advertising it on a Western message board (HN) is unlikely to help. I don't think the author's intentions are poor; I think they may simply not understand the intensity of the legal regime that makes working with them impossible.

There is also the matter of Westerners' general opinions on Iran, which - general attitudes of multiculturalism and tolerance nonwithstanding - is typically quite negative. The sanctions didn't come from nowhere.

I would recommend the author look into partnerships with persons from countries that are more sympathetic to their situation. The ones with strong tech industries would be Russia, China, and India. Vietnam is another example of a country with some tech industry which also has mostly positive relationships with Western countries, these days. I realize this is not as attractive as the West, but there are good people even in places whose governments I may as a Westerner may not particularly like, and English is a lingua franca the world over. I'd strongly recommend those places as a starting point.

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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Me: I built this insane 3D multilingual AI avatar platform with real-time conversation, full enterprise stack, 47 languages, and Unreal Engine You: Can bypass US Treasury sanctions and open a Stripe account

Ha, fair.

Yeah, the skills mismatch is real. I can build distributed systems with 4-server architecture, but I can't open a Stripe account.

That's literally the post. "I'm good at X, terrible at Y (geography), need someone who has Y."

If you know anyone who's great at sales but wishes they had a technical co-founder, send them my way :)

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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post #5

Me: I built this insane 3D multilingual AI avatar platform with real-time conversation, full enterprise stack, 47 languages, and Unreal Engine You: Can bypass US Treasury sanctions and open a Stripe account

Honestly I would, but I’m already helping this Nigerian prince.

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

#24
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I don’t get it. I clicked the demo link but there’s nothing to try, only a home page with some AI generated images? Even if this were legal it feels like a pitch for a scam…

https://ps.neoclerks.com:8451/player.html?ss=f2ee51d8-2ea3-4...

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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post #5

Me: I built this insane 3D multilingual AI avatar platform with real-time conversation, full enterprise stack, 47 languages, and Unreal Engine You: Can bypass US Treasury sanctions and open a Stripe account

It does pattern match to the Spanish Prisoner scam, with extra FinCEN violations thrown in.

He does have a LinkedIn, and his GH user has a real looking GitHub pages site associated with it.

Please don't violate US Treasury dep sanctions just to be a founder for a business with 0 customer validation, you might as well be helping a Nigerian prince.

Seek counsel with a lawyer versed on this first, rather than the HN comments section or your own exuberance.

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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I am not a lawyer or diplomat or expert on trade, but I can make some general observations from an American/Western perspective: First, the sanctions on Iran are such that any partnership with an Iranian person for business reasons is effectively impossible in the West, without the resources of a multi-million or billion-dollar company to circumvent them. The author says "I am not looking for anyone to bypass sanctio…

Thank you for this thoughtful response. You're raising legitimate concerns I may not fully understand.

Let me clarify my understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong):

My assumption was that a structure like this would be legal: - Partner in US/UK registers their own company - Opens Stripe under their company name - Hires me as a remote contractor (like any distributed team) - I hold equity as a foreign shareholder (which I thought was legal for non-US persons)

Is your point that even this structure violates sanctions because I'm Iranian? Or that the risk/complexity makes it impractical for anyone without massive legal resources?

I genuinely don't want anyone to break the law. If what I'm proposing is illegal even in the structure above, I need to understand that.

Re: Russia/China/India - that's solid advice I hadn't seriously considered. Russia and China have their own complexities, but India makes a lot of sense. Do you know if Indian tech companies face similar restrictions when working with Iranians, or is it more open?

I appreciate you taking the time to explain this clearly rather than just dismissing it. If the Western partnership path is genuinely impossible (not just hard), I need to know that.

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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As a technical founder I empathize with the authors situation and approach, but honestly spending that much time and energy on a product before even getting one sign up is a known failure mode.

In his own words he all-ready got early feedback from his family.

"I tried the local Iranian market. I showed it to friends, family, and potential clients. Their response: "Nobody in Iran will pay $500/month for this. The Persian language quality isn't perfect. We'll use free ChatGPT instead.""

Which should of been free feed-back on the risk vs reward.

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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post #22
post #5

Me: I built this insane 3D multilingual AI avatar platform with real-time conversation, full enterprise stack, 47 languages, and Unreal Engine You: Can bypass US Treasury sanctions and open a Stripe account

Ha, fair. Yeah, the skills mismatch is real. I can build distributed systems with 4-server architecture, but I can't open a Stripe account. That's literally the post. "I'm good at X, terrible at Y (geography), need someone who has Y." If you know anyone who's great at sales but wishes they had a technical co-founder, send them my way :)

It's a very unique cofounder pitch! I hope you bootstrap this idea as far as you can.

You should encourage any potential founder to talk with a lawyer, though, too!

Re: I can build enterprise software but I can't charge for it

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post #27

I am not a lawyer or diplomat or expert on trade, but I can make some general observations from an American/Western perspective: First, the sanctions on Iran are such that any partnership with an Iranian person for business reasons is effectively impossible in the West, without the resources of a multi-million or billion-dollar company to circumvent them. The author says "I am not looking for anyone to bypass sanctio…

Thank you for this thoughtful response. You're raising legitimate concerns I may not fully understand. Let me clarify my understanding (and please correct me if I'm wrong): My assumption was that a structure like this would be legal: - Partner in US/UK registers their own company - Opens Stripe under their company name - Hires me as a remote contractor (like any distributed team) - I hold equity as a foreign sharehol…

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