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Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by 1121redblackgo »

reaperducer wrote: post #270
groundzeros2015 wrote: post #234

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Not engaging in political fights outside your circle of influence is actually good for business and responsible leadership.

"Good for business" is not the highest goal a human can achieve. Not even close. Start with "do the right thing" and progress from there.

I'd rather we drop the pretense or expectations that corporations have anything but one goal. That will help us direct our energy to where it can actually be productive.

If the marketplace demands better corporate stewardship, and people vote with their wallet, and companies decides to change then great, but the corporate ship is only ever getting steered in one direction and it's not for noble reasons.

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Post by thesuitonym »

ntoskrnl_exe wrote: post #287
thesuitonym wrote: post #235

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Maybe there's room in the world for a device people want, even if it's not the device the majority want? I mean I know Apple is just a small startup company with only a $4 trillion valuation, but maybe they could just do one thing that isn't maximally profitable once in a while.

>maybe they could just do one thing that isn't maximally profitable once in a while. They tried that this year and called it iPhone Air

Ya got me there.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by qudat »

fxtentacle wrote: post #63

Awww... I was so much hoping for an iPhone that will fit into my pocket. The 1st iPhone SE was the perfect form factor. But no, Apple's phones just had to grow and grow and grow like cancer ... In my opinion, the fact that Apple is now selling a bag to carry your oversized phone around in, is an admission that they failed to make phones that are convenient to carry.

I was hoping for a zfold

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by bobbiechen »

biophysboy wrote: post #122
hlpn wrote: post #14

> Inspired by the concept of “a piece of cloth” Ugh

Its just a stiff translation of a marketing term. If you look up 一枚の布, you'll see a bunch of Miyake's clothes, where the whole gimmick is that they have no seams. A better translation probably would have been "inspired by the concept of seamless design"

That makes much more sense, even "a seamless piece of cloth" would have been much less ridiculous.

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Post by throwforfeds »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #165
throwforfeds wrote: post #64

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I was just talking to my wife about this, literally 5 minutes ago. I just moved from the 13 mini to the Air and am hating that it doesn't comfortably fit in my jeans, to the point where I might go return it today. My young cousin was wearing her iPhone on a cross body sling, and I was commenting that we've gotten to the point where the phones are so big that you need bags or extra things to carry it comfortably.

To a contemporary person their smartphone is probably the single most functionally important object they carry with them. People have always modified their clothes around common items, and then those modifications become subject to fashion trends and then eventually tradition themselves. Think like briefcases and wallets, but also japanese inro, european snuffboxes, decorative scabbards, etc. This is more like an anc…

For sure, I had that thought as well, that clothing is evolving alongside the things people are needing to carry.

But, for me, it does seem like we're going in a functionally poorer direction. Just a few years ago I could have a computer I could fit in my pocket. I can't buy that anymore. The fact that people are selling modifications to these devices (cross body slings, cases with those weird pop up things on the back so you can hold it one handed) to me means we've missed the mark on design. For more than a decade we had a great one handed computer that'd disappear into my pocket. No longer.

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Post by Brendinooo »

kulahan wrote: post #312
nathan_compton wrote: post #73

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The pants cost around 500 bucks? I don't necessarily believe that a priori spending $500 on a pair of pants is irrational, but I really struggle to imagine any pair of pants being worth that much money unless they are lined with gold or something. I usually buy cheap clothes and mend them and ten years for a pair of pants isn't unusual for me. I probably haven't spent $500 dollars on clothes in a year ever in my enti…

$500 for something you might wear for a decade straight? A brand-new pair of Levis at JC Penny is gonna run you like $90 anyways. It's not that much more expensive. But also, quality has diminishing returns in basically every category. At the low end, it's extremely efficient to improve the quality of your product and charge a bit more. At the high end, you can't make any more inexpensive moves to set yourself apart,…

> A brand-new pair of Levis at JC Penny is gonna run you like $90 anyways

I'm seeing a range of around $33 to $60 at the moment, with other brands dipping under $30.

https://www.jcpenney.com/g/men/jeans?id=cat100250010

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by throwforfeds »

stetrain wrote: post #188
throwforfeds wrote: post #64

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I was just talking to my wife about this, literally 5 minutes ago. I just moved from the 13 mini to the Air and am hating that it doesn't comfortably fit in my jeans, to the point where I might go return it today. My young cousin was wearing her iPhone on a cross body sling, and I was commenting that we've gotten to the point where the phones are so big that you need bags or extra things to carry it comfortably.

For the demographics whose mainstream clothing includes no or very small pockets, this has been true for many years.

Absolutely, and the lack of decent pockets on women's clothing is probably a large reason I can no longer buy a computer I can fit in my jeans.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by brulard »

ntoskrnl_exe wrote: post #287
thesuitonym wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe there's room in the world for a device people want, even if it's not the device the majority want? I mean I know Apple is just a small startup company with only a $4 trillion valuation, but maybe they could just do one thing that isn't maximally profitable once in a while.

>maybe they could just do one thing that isn't maximally profitable once in a while. They tried that this year and called it iPhone Air

It felt more like: keep the size, reduce the battery life
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