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Post by Aeolun »

ronsor wrote: post #201
testfrequency wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like how they removed all the gay dating apps in China yesterday (by request of the government of course). So sad to watch a gay CEO just sit comfortably and allow his company quietly destroy his own “community”. Don’t get me started on SA either…

> Just like how they removed all the gay dating apps in China yesterday (by request of the government of course). Those apps have always been illegal in China. Of course, one could say Apple should not operate in China (and this is perhaps true), but they cannot both operate there and break the law.

> they cannot both operate there and break the law.

Clearly they were doing exactly that until yesterday?

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Post by kulahan »

nathan_compton wrote: post #73
AEVL wrote: post #61

Just some trivia (and an aside): The collaboration is with Issey Miyake. Steve Jobs black turtlenecks was Issey Miyakes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenniferhicks/2022/08/10/heres-... (As an aside, I swear by pants from the Issey Miyake Homme Plissé collection. Since investing in some pairs about 10 years ago, I have hardly worn anything else—no other pants match their comfort. The iPhone Pocket is of course ridicul…

The pants cost around 500 bucks? I don't necessarily believe that a priori spending $500 on a pair of pants is irrational, but I really struggle to imagine any pair of pants being worth that much money unless they are lined with gold or something. I usually buy cheap clothes and mend them and ten years for a pair of pants isn't unusual for me. I probably haven't spent $500 dollars on clothes in a year ever in my enti…

$500 for something you might wear for a decade straight? A brand-new pair of Levis at JC Penny is gonna run you like $90 anyways. It's not that much more expensive.

But also, quality has diminishing returns in basically every category. At the low end, it's extremely efficient to improve the quality of your product and charge a bit more. At the high end, you can't make any more inexpensive moves to set yourself apart, so you use higher end materials, fabrication methods, and workers.

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Post by kossTKR »

NickC25 wrote: post #303
kossTKR wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is the actual prowar propaganda though in my europeean eyes. The US is worse than China in many aspects, from forever wars to climate over colonialism to fascism and support for an ongoing extremely violent genocide on over a hundred thousand civilians, - where is China geonociding hundreds a week right now? Yeah nowhere, but the US is doing that every decade. Incredible to see this angle that 'the good…

>The US is worse than China in many aspects, from forever wars to climate over colonialism to fascism and support for an ongoing extremely violent genocide on over a hundred thousand civilians. My man, the US and China are more or less the exact same here with the exception of forever wars. Climate? China pollutes like crazy, and so does the US. Colonialism? Maybe not in the same vein but China does engage in actions…

Yes its imperial logic so why arent you saying that to OP's bizzare US = peace and gay rights comment?

And the Uyghur repression is no genocide compared to Palestine thats complete US misinformation and frankly a sinister comparison - the US is much much more violent, again look at Palestine, before that literally 30+ wars for resources and markets with millions of civilians dead.

Im not naive about China but this US = beacon of human rights angle is frankly gross to me.

China has many problems but americans are literally worse and you wanting to boycut due to human rights, is this a joke?

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Post by nozzlegear »

dpoloncsak wrote: post #192
nozzlegear wrote: post #168

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> In my opinion, the fact that Apple is now selling a bag to carry your oversized phone around in, is an admission that they failed to make phones that are convenient to carry. Can any woman with a purse or man with a fanny pack chime in and let us know if they've ever thought about putting their phones in their bags before?

Is this supposed to dispute the claim? A man putting his phone in his fanny pack would also signify apple's phones are inconvenient to carry. Apple releasing a 'solution' is them admitting it

No, it's supposed to point out that there exists an entire set of people who have been putting their phones in bags for as long as phones have existed. We mostly don't hear from women here on HN thanks to old gender biases in tech.

> Apple releasing a 'solution' is them admitting it

Apple released a collaboration with a fashion brand.

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Post by NickC25 »

fxtentacle wrote: post #83
rekoil wrote: post #74

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I wish the iPhone 12/13 mini had been a few mm thicker for a bigger battery, and had been in the Pro class of devices. As it stands they didn't have a good enough battery to last a day, and most people interested in smaller devices had probably just picked up the new SE that was released just half a year earlier.

I believe the issue is that with Jobs gone, Apple's design team is now apparently unable to continue their job. Instead of developing their own UI paradigm for small screens, they keep copying from Google Pixel both the UI ideas and the screen size. And now that they ran out of useful ideas, they turned everything transparent. Why make the iPhone look more like Apple Vision when people so obviously hate the latter? […

>Apple's design team is now apparently unable to continue their job

Honestly id say this is a mix of both Jobs and Ive being gone.

Now under the operational maximalist that is Tim Cook, they just revert to old designs every few years and call it revolutionary. See: edges on the iPhone. First, rounded edges. WOW, revolutionary! Then a few years later, hard edges. WOW, revolutionary! Then a few years later, rounded edges. WOW, revolutionary! Then a few years later, hard edges. WOW, revolutionary!

All the while stripping actual functionality out of the devices and removing useful features like headphone jacks. There hasn't been real product innovation at Apple in over a decade.

But I digress.

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

NickC25 wrote: post #303
kossTKR wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment is the actual prowar propaganda though in my europeean eyes. The US is worse than China in many aspects, from forever wars to climate over colonialism to fascism and support for an ongoing extremely violent genocide on over a hundred thousand civilians, - where is China geonociding hundreds a week right now? Yeah nowhere, but the US is doing that every decade. Incredible to see this angle that 'the good…

>The US is worse than China in many aspects, from forever wars to climate over colonialism to fascism and support for an ongoing extremely violent genocide on over a hundred thousand civilians. My man, the US and China are more or less the exact same here with the exception of forever wars. Climate? China pollutes like crazy, and so does the US. Colonialism? Maybe not in the same vein but China does engage in actions…

No the chinese people, most of whom do not have a ICE car, do not produce those carbon numbers

China is where the west exported pollution to by the fact that we pushed most of the deadly and dangerous production and manufacturing there.

So all the west does is launder pollution through east and southeastern asia.

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Post by kulahan »

craftkiller wrote: post #210
parsimo2010 wrote: post #178

I’m so glad there are some people willing to pay over $200 for “a piece of cloth” which I assume is a translation issue but it sounds uninspired- who knew your inspiration for a bag could be the material that most bags are made of? I especially like how it’s sized to fit almost any iPhone ever made. So not only are you getting a bag made of cloth, for over $200 it’s not even custom fitted! Anyway, this product isn’t…

I bought my current phone for $94 brand new. It can communicate with other devices over the air through literal magic. It has 2.5 million tiny lights, each independently controlled to be any color I want. It knows where I am anywhere on the planet. Through it, I can access an essentially infinite pool of entertainment, hail life-saving emergency services, perform monetary transactions, acquire food, etc. This piece o…

Surely you understand things like economies of scale, surplus inventories, etc.?

Not to mention, "number of lights" or "ability to communicate through the air" has no real bearing on its value, clearly.

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Post by sunnyps »

nimbius wrote: post #298
perihelions wrote: post #171

> "Greater China" Irredentist pro-war language, Tim Cook? I am so done with Apple. They knew what they did when they chose the words; they certainly spent thousands of hours deliberating them. This is Lebensraum with Chinese Characteristics. > "The term is often used to avoid invoking sensitivities over the political status of Taiwan.[16] Contrastingly, it has been used in reference to Chinese irredentism in national…

of the 193 members of the UN, only 12 (6%) recognize Taiwan as a country. the Kuomintang lost the war. its effectively the same as if the confederacy retreated to the Florida keys and China maintained a policy of deliberate ambiguity.

The population of Taiwan is 23 million. The population of Florida Keys is 82000. Not the same.

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Post by jajuuka »

sneak wrote: post #267
perihelions wrote: post #171

> "Greater China" Irredentist pro-war language, Tim Cook? I am so done with Apple. They knew what they did when they chose the words; they certainly spent thousands of hours deliberating them. This is Lebensraum with Chinese Characteristics. > "The term is often used to avoid invoking sensitivities over the political status of Taiwan.[16] Contrastingly, it has been used in reference to Chinese irredentism in national…

The CCP has Apple hostage. Their products are (effectively) all made there. China has more control over Apple than the US does, at present. They are, of course, in crash override priority mode trying to change that, but nowhere else on earth can manufacture (on average) 20,000 iPhones per hour, 24/7/365. (TBH it’s probably closer to 50k per hour in the months up to release day.) The iPhone is a Chinese product, made…

US government has FAR more control over Apple as a company. China only has control of the Chinese operations. The president is personally beefing with companies and buying stakes in them. The tariffs alone could have severely hurt Apple, but Apple bent over backwards to appease the president. The US government can simply request an app be removed and Apple and Google will do it worldwide.

China does not have that power over Apple. China can threaten Apple but they have already diversified their manufacturing to other countries so China does not have a strangle hold on the supply line.

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Post by jtokoph »

lopis wrote: post #148
lufasz wrote: post #102

https://www.apple.com/shop/product/hs8p2zm/a/iphone-pocket-b... https://media.gq-magazine.co.uk/photos/5f8efdba9b357099d70a9...

Suspiciously missing if the color shown in the press release, the one closely resembling the one Borat is using.

If you change the "Size" on the store page from "Long" to "Short", the yellow is there. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/hs8r2zm/a/iphone-pocket-b...
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