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I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

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Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#22

I can understand what she's saying. Using ChatGPT produces outcomes that are so mid and basic. Just average. I'd want to date someone more interesting than that.

I mean it "depends on the query". I used LLMs for vacation planning and with the right queries you get some really non-mid suggestions.

"Find the most interesting, quirky, or just plain unusual attractions that locals are pleasantly surprised by, searching using {local language}"

The models have complex behavior surfaces and when they interact with external data, the dynamics pliable. You can get very much non-basic stuff for whatever you want.

Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#23
post #14

> He took out his phone, opened ChatGPT, and asked for restaurant suggestions. Why get close to someone who outsources decisions, including the fun ones like picking where to eat? If someone is so lazy they’ll hit up ChatGPT to plan a first date, imagine how little effort they’ll spend six months in. Do they have a similar reaction to searching "restaurants near here" in a maps app? Practically any time I go out to e…

i mean it sounds like he started asking chatgpt before even asking the other person what they'd like...

In the initial exchange from the article the author states to the groom "the Venue is perfect!" to which the groom replies "I found it with ChatGPT."

To suddenly go from "this is perfect" to "ick" is a problem with being too judgmental and not self-regulating.

Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

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post #14

> He took out his phone, opened ChatGPT, and asked for restaurant suggestions. Why get close to someone who outsources decisions, including the fun ones like picking where to eat? If someone is so lazy they’ll hit up ChatGPT to plan a first date, imagine how little effort they’ll spend six months in. Do they have a similar reaction to searching "restaurants near here" in a maps app? Practically any time I go out to e…

i mean it sounds like he started asking chatgpt before even asking the other person what they'd like...

I mean... _pikachu face_

It's breakfast. Eggs, pancakes, breakfast meat, coffee, juice. It might say more about the offended person if they need specific breakfast guardrails. The other person may have accidently filtered out a potentially life-changing disaster.

Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#25

> He took out his phone, opened ChatGPT, and asked for restaurant suggestions. Why get close to someone who outsources decisions, including the fun ones like picking where to eat? If someone is so lazy they’ll hit up ChatGPT to plan a first date, imagine how little effort they’ll spend six months in. Do they have a similar reaction to searching "restaurants near here" in a maps app? Practically any time I go out to e…

And yet the guy took initiative to try find a place at least, and she's criticising about how exactly he went about it? What a weird value call to make right there.

Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#26
post #7

This feels so much like 90s Wikipedia criticism. There are lousy and lazy ways to use LLMs. There are also enlightening and powerful ways. Find someone curious who will explore them. Don't date people who habitually fight anything new.

Don’t date people who abandon their own agency.

Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#27
post #7

This feels so much like 90s Wikipedia criticism. There are lousy and lazy ways to use LLMs. There are also enlightening and powerful ways. Find someone curious who will explore them. Don't date people who habitually fight anything new.

"Habitually fighting anything new" is nonpolitical conservatism. It's not my stance but it's a pretty valid one, long recognized. There is social value in having people and groups who reject all changes regardless of their apparent merit or sophistication. You can't trick or swindle them, they can't be fooled or persuaded. It provides a counter to the incentives pushing us to change too fast, or without understanding…

To put another way, contrarianism is a survival adaptation for humans.

There are some options that are clearly 99% superior than other options. But that 1% happens enough to create an extinction event for humanity if everyone relies on it.

People are going to oppose good ideas from their very core for no discernable rhyme or reason. But at the same time, it's not necessarily irrational - our genetics are hardcoded to hedge collectively in weird ways.

Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#29
Newspapers are really nailing these GenAI ragebait pieces.

> We know that the energy-intensive tech drains our water supply and hikes electricity bills.

Before GenAI, there was Google, AWS, Facebook, not to mention Netflix and friends. A single streaming episode probably uses more resources all told than reasonable ChatGPT use over a month.

> It is sold as a placebo for human connection; lonely, disconnected people finding companionship or even falling in love with code is not as much a sci-fi plot point as it is just the way things go now.

Anything/everything possible is sold as a placebo for human connection because loneliness is a powerful human motivator (Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, etc. etc.) Before that: TV.

> The megarich tech bros in charge of all this think in terms of profit first and people second.

Most profitable corps think about profit, yes. The idea is that they can't profit unless people get something good out of it. If they can profit without people getting something good, it's a failure in the system, so the correct target is market breakdown: bad regulation, unbroken monopolies, fraud, etc.

> OK, so ChatGPT helps you write your grocery list. Does your individual convenience outweigh the societal harm it can cause?

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Re: I refuse to date someone who uses ChatGPT

#30
post #3

"A good friend recently told me that she spent a night with a man, and in the morning suggested they get breakfast together. He took out his phone, opened ChatGPT, and asked for restaurant suggestions. Why get close to someone who outsources decisions, including the fun ones like picking where to eat?" Same logic applies to using Google, I guess? Or any mapping app? How about Yelp?

Yeah, I didn’t really get that particular example. That seems functionally equivalent to a Google search. There is still a decision being made. You don’t have to go to the restaurant just because the AI suggests it.
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