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Time to start de-Appling

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Re: Time to start de-Appling

#21

Apple obeys the law. Policians set the law. You vote for politicians. So nu, it makes no sense to blame Apple here.

it does if you're clickbaiting via ragebait, like she is?

I think it’s a stretch to say the author is blaming Apple in the title and she explicitly calls out in the very first section:

> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.

Re: Time to start de-Appling

#22

Apple obeys the law. Policians set the law. You vote for politicians. So nu, it makes no sense to blame Apple here.

> But I will say that the shutdown of ADP is Apple being on the right side of the geopolitical fight, as inconvenient as that may be to you and me.

I don't think there's any blaming of Apple going on here. This is about dealing with the practical realities of the circumstances for people in the UK.

Re: Time to start de-Appling

#25
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> Also, why is Apple disabling ADP, and why are they right? Is it because of the UK wanting to snoop on all communications? Yes. UK wants Apple to give them a backdoor to E2EE iCloud data, including ADP. The UK gov having such a backdoor to iCloud would also affect non-UK citizens, basically UK wants to snoop on everyone's communication, whether they are under UK jurisdiction or not. Apple took the route of not offer…

Oof, I thought that got shot down. Thanks for the info, the UK has traditionally really liked surveillance.

Re: Time to start de-Appling

#26

Something's wrong with the CSS on this page. The end of every line is cut off.

.site-content .post has `overflow: hidden;`, .site-content .entry-content has `max-width: 965px;`, and .wide-content has `margin-right: -34.0740%;` Disabling the margin-right or, preferably, the max-width rule will fix the layout. Or make your browser less than 1700px wide.

(Crazy rats nest of CSS rules, I assume this is a wordpress/wordpress template thing.)

Re: Time to start de-Appling

#29
From the article:

> Otherwise, please make sure you de-Apple, de-Google, and de-American Stack yourself when you have time, clarity, and focus to do it. Start today.

I don't understand the core of this advice. So if you're in the UK and do all the above, can you suddenly get similar E2EE cloud storage from a different provider without a UK government-mandated backdoor?

Re: Time to start de-Appling

#30

Apple obeys the law. Policians set the law. You vote for politicians. So nu, it makes no sense to blame Apple here.

Unlike most writing about politics, the article isn't arguing that 'those are the bad people over there'. The article describes a current aspect of reality and how it came about, and suggests a way of responding to that reality.
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