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#152It's a shame that the top comments are focusing more on Elon Musk, his personality and politics rather than the quality of the model per se. Speaking about Elon, regardless of what you think of him, he really does get things done, despite naysayers -- SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink and even get Trump elected ( despite subsequent fallout) etc. Even Twitter is finding a second life by becoming a haven for the free speech adv…
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my understanding of the hacker ethos, hackers appear to be genuinely nice people who mean to do good for society and regular people. Elon does not align with those values according to some people so they reject him and his activities.
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> [...] infected with the woke mind virus [...]
I won't argue other than telling you: That's peak American infighting and I'm not American. I leave a citation of Arthur Schopenhauer, a famous philosopher, here. Maybe it betters your condition:
“The cheapest sort of pride is national pride; for if a man is proud of his own nation, it argues that he has no qualities of his own of which he can be proud; otherwise he would not have recourse to those which he shares with so many millions of his fellowmen. The man who is endowed with important personal qualities will be only too ready to see clearly in what respects his own nation falls short, since their failings will be constantly before his eyes. But every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud adopts, as a last resource, pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and glad to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority.”
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But Tesla != Musk. He wasn't actually a founder, he bought his way in, and demanded that everyone agree he was a "founder".
Not to mention the huge numbers of real scientists working over the decades to improve battery tech to the point where it was obvious that electric cars were going to be viable.
We shouldn't praise Musk for taking credit for other people's work.
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It's the only model that lets you do gooner shit. That's why the usage is highly skewed. You can just call a horse a horse if you see one.
this is a code model, not the general one
you are so naive. lol. It's a general model with the tag "code" added to it.
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#157This post really has no reason to be flagged. I know Elon is controversial, and I have a lot of gripes with his business practices myself, but this is literally just documentation for a frontier LLM. Can we stay on topic?
The politics of the owners IS the topic. It's being really naive (read: stupid) to think that this has no implication on society
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What a grandiose nuanced statement. Thanks for this highly enlightening contribution!
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#160Anyone can make a long context window. The key is if your model can make effective use of it or not.
If a model is not making use of the whole context window - shouldn't that be very noticeable when the prompt is code? For example when querying a model to refactor a piece of code - would that really work if it forgets about one part of the code while it refactors another part? I concatenate a lot of code files into a single prompt multiple times a day and ask LLMs to refactor them, implement features or review the c…
I don't think there are any up-to-date leaderboards, but models absolutely degrade in performance the more context they're dealing with.
https://wandb.ai/byyoung3/ruler_eval/reports/How-to-evaluate...
>Gpt-5-mini records 0.87 overall judge accuracy at 4k [context] and falls to 0.59 at 128k.
And Llama 4 Scout claimed a 10 million token context window but in practice its performance on query tasks drops below 20% accuracy by 32k tokens.