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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by wqaatwt » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 8:58 AM UTC

ribelo wrote: post #64

behnamoh wrote: post #29

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Because some tools (AFAIR Kilo Code but I might be wrong) gave it away for free. The model itself was (still is?) free for a while, so I'm not surprised.

Openrouter is not counting tokens used by Kilo or Cline. They have own endpoints.

Yet if you go to the actual model’s page:

https://openrouter.ai/x-ai/grok-code-fast-1

Cline and Kilo code are in the top 3. So how does that work?

It’s considerably cheaper than competing models like 2.5 flash, though. So its not that surprising

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by snthpy » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 8:58 AM UTC

straydusk wrote: post #37

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Yeah, same for OpenAI because of Sama. I'm proud to say I haven't touched either for over a year. There are enough good alternatives out there.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by gitaarik » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:00 AM UTC

vlovich123 wrote: post #39

RobKohr wrote: post #32

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I like grok for noncoding stuff. I find it hasn't been tuned for "Safety" (meaning it isn't tuned much for political correctness). It also seems good at making images and stories up well. I run some choose your own adventures stories with my kids through it. We tell it who each of their characters are and what the theme is for the night and grok gives them each a section of story and 4 choices. They also have the opt…

> meaning it isn't tuned much for political correctness Is being tuned for right wing viewpoints the same as not being tuned for political correctness? Because there is tuning happening to a specific viewpoint: https://gizmodo.com/elon-says-hes-working-to-fix-grok-after-...

Yeah, but you can argue that the AI has been biased because of biased training data.

Ultimately every AI is biased based on what you train it on and how you instruct it.

I tend to use LLMs from different companies and personally compare them, and read between the lines.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by snthpy » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:00 AM UTC

kburman wrote: post #62

straydusk wrote: post #37

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Not defending anyone, but by that logic, you shouldn’t be using any Chinese models either.

Why is that? Does Chinese company really equal Chinese government?

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by Glamklo » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:01 AM UTC

ronsor wrote: post #47

dmead wrote: post #38

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I find it funny that people are still calling Grok "mechahitler" as if that weren't prompted by trolls and the AI model is going to set up concentration camps on every block.

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by enraged_camel » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:01 AM UTC

wqaatwt wrote: post #69

jofzar wrote: post #63

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Does the internet move so fast that people have forgotten his Roman salute at the trump rally?

That proves he’s an edgy, drugged out jerk. Raising your hand in a certain way is not sufficient to be a nazi..

The guy spends most of his time signal-boosting deeply racist, antisemitic, white supremacist stuff on X. He's obsessed with stuff like "replacement theory" and constantly insists white people must make as many babies as possible to maintain their cultural superiority and avoid being outnumbered by other races. You don't have to believe me. Go check for yourself.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by herbst » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:04 AM UTC

IshKebab wrote: post #61

Lapel2742 wrote: post #58

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Come on, I would also never use Grok because Elon is an arsehole. He's not a neonazi though. That's ridiculous.

Central European here. If it quaks like a nazi that's exactly what we would call a neo nazi.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by gitaarik » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:04 AM UTC

Lapel2742 wrote: post #58

straydusk wrote: post #37

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And there are just as well people that would have no sympathy for people who seem to think it's ok to call people nazis for baseless and childish reasons.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by GCUMstlyHarmls » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:04 AM UTC

vasco wrote: post #71

danskeren wrote: post #60

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I throw all my queries at Grok 4 Expert, GPT 5 Thinking and Opus 4.1 Extended Thinking.. for Golang it's been my experience that Grok produce the best results about 90% of the time as well. Some simple example: https://claude.ai/share/6d178173-cdf7-4e50-a467-73ee9f479d56 . https://chatgpt.com/share/69102735-46ac-8012-9cf0-0969585c86... . https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5LWNvcHk%3D_54b5f2f1-732e-4372... . I don't use Ge…

I used to think OpenAI was going to be the Yahoo of the AI wave, but might not even be that, maybe it's the AOL. And from what it looks like to me Google is preparing to be the Google of the AI wave.

Or maybe the Google Wave of the AI Wave...

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by retinaros » Sun, Nov 09, 2025, 9:05 AM UTC

snthpy wrote: post #84

kburman wrote: post #62

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Not defending anyone, but by that logic, you shouldn’t be using any Chinese models either.

Why is that? Does Chinese company really equal Chinese government?

lol. is that really a question? even for american companies look who's at the board of those companies...