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Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

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Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#101

This ship carries 5300 tonnes of cargo. The average transoceanic container ship carries around 150,000 to 250,000 tonnes.

Use it for luxury goods! "Why _my_ iphone arrived in Baltimore on a clean cargo ship, so yeah, ..."

I am only half joking. Anything luxury of vanity related, just add the fact they've gotten to the consumer on a clean ship and you'll find some people to pay extra for it. The more expensive the better. They can brag about it to each other.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#102
post #89

They have a passenger service too! €3200 for France Baltimore, 13 day trip. But with that you get three meals a day, a decent looking cabin, private bathroom, private balcony, and internet service (though how solid the connection is / what surcharges there may be is a question). ~€250/d doesn't sound too bad, and you could get work done along the way. Kind of sounds nice... https://www.voilasailcoop.fr/transatlantic/…

I crossed the atlantic twice, each time for 650 euros the 13 days… add 250/300 euros for internet

What type of ship was it? And how was the experience, did you enjoy the trip & find enough to do to stay busy/not bored along the way?

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#103
post #77

This ship carries 5300 tonnes of cargo. The average transoceanic container ship carries around 150,000 to 250,000 tonnes.

It also broke shortly after beginning and didn’t make the trip by sailing.

1 of their 2 sails broke. They completed the trip on one sail and their back up engine.

Especially in a prototype, proving something can go wrong and you can still complete the mission is valuable data.

You wouldn't prototype something like this at full scale.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#104
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah idk. Maybe it's the tone of stuff like "it would incur undue hardship" (re indoor temps) that comes across to me as a bit holier than thou and makes the rest of your first paragraph seem more self-centered.

I plainly stated that society should not bow to my needs and that those who contribute to society and are a part of society are more important than me, what more do you want?

I know, I know. Look, I'm sorry for nitpicking.

I actually agree with the idea of having a lower footprint, reducing, etc. I think you're doing a good thing, and I hope you stay safe at sea.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#106

11 knots seems a good speed.

Indeed, it's a very impressive speed. I have been on few ships of similar size as this sailboat. With their huge, extremely loud, hot, and diesel hunger engine they usually cruise at less than 15 knots. Container ships are outliers. Not sure how much more fuel they burn when sailing at 25 knots vs 15 knots. But they use cheaper heavy oil so perhaps are less sensitive to fuel cost.

Also the same speed feels faster at sea than on the land because waves make sailing like drive off-road. A small boat can feel like fly at 30 knots. 11 knots makes a joyful ride.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#108

This ship carries 5300 tonnes of cargo. The average transoceanic container ship carries around 150,000 to 250,000 tonnes.

https://www.ship-technology.com/projects/neoliner-origin-ro-...

Apparently Neoliner Origin capacity is 265 TEU (twenty foot equivalent units).

That’s tiny by cargo ship standards and bulk, not weight, is the bulk of bulk shipping costs.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#109
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think the USCG has any bearing on my life? Even if I am an American I stated that my dream was to be blown about the oceans, which strongly implies that I will be out of USCG jurisdiction the majority of the time. You are right in context of a busy seaway like New York Harbor but in that situation a sailing freighter will be under power, not under sail and anyone in a small sailboat will be very alert.…

I’m not sure where people get the idea of the rules don’t apply in international waters. The COLREGs clearly state commercial vessels have right away over recreational sailboats. End of story. You get run over by a commercial vessel, it’s your fault for being in the way but it’s their fault for running you down.

Here is the COLREG order:

  Not under command
  Restricted maneuverability
  Constrained by draft
  Fishing (actively dragging)
  Under sail
Ignoring not under command; in the open sea only the fishing boat has right of way over a sailing boat because the rest are not restricted by maneuverability or draft when in the middle of the ocean unless the crew is negligent. Fishing vessels in the open ocean tend to give way unless they can raise the boat on the radio and get them to change course because they really do not want the sail boat to foul their lines, especially the long line boats. In restricted waters boats under sail often have the right of way because they have restricted maneuverability (restricted by the wind) and their deep keel means they are restricted by draft but it is not so black and white here; if the sailboat can fire up its engine it is more maneuverable than that tug pulling a bunch of barges so if that sailboat has less draft restriction than the tug and its barges, it has to fire up its engine and get out of the way.

But COLREG is not the rule of the sea, just the rule for countries who are a part of the UN. But the truth is that a collision with such a sailboat will not phase these boats and generally writing a check is an insignificant cost and rare enough that it is what they do.

Re: Largest cargo sailboat completes first Atlantic crossing

#110
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I don't believe using more energy improves ones life That's a very interesting perspective and I would love to hear some arguments or examples supporting it.

Not OP, but in general, while some things do improve my life (climate control, hot water, cooking), I'd say there are also plenty of things that don't. I don't think my device usage habits or media consumption actually improve my life. I'm not sure the energy that's been dumped into producing the many gadgets I've bought over the years really improved me life. I'd say that a lot of energy goes into distracting me in…

I think the point is larger than any individual. It involves the environment in which you're located. Infrastructure changes require energy, lots of energy. Increasing quality of life for most things we've built in our world requires investing lots of energy at the state level. You reap the benefits of this by living in the state.
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