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Post by epolanski »

thephyber wrote: post #173
epolanski wrote: post #171

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> Arguably it’s China’s governing body’s biggest single fear. Why China's? What you said is true in any corner of the globe.

China is the world’s most populous country with an autonomous governing body that doesn’t always respond to the voice of the people. And their leadership knows that multiple previous Chinese governments were toppled after the people were famished.

> Chinese governments were toppled after the people were famished

In imperial china it's a cultural/religious thing.

Famines always represented a sign that the ruling party wasn't wanted "by the skies" anymore.

In any case, ain't nobody ever gonna starve in modern china.

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AaronAPU wrote: post #163
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There is a reason I started my first comment the way I did. For Trump's entire time in politics, there have been people trying to communicate the type of person he is and the plans he has for the US and there have been people like you who have said we're overreacting.

It doesn't matter what actually happens. I could probably list dozens of examples, from the overturning of Roe v Wade to the violence of ICE, of times we have been told that our predictions were detached from reality until they eventually became reality. At this point if you can't recognize that the lines of acceptable political behavior have constantly been pushed under Trump's control, then I doubt you will ever admit it.

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Post by brokencode »

geon wrote: post #149
brokencode wrote: post #135

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The US hasn't been perfect, but you can hardly say we've ruled the world terribly. Because who has ever ruled it better? We helped Europe and Asia rebuild after WWII instead of conquering them. To the extent that our previous enemies in Germany and Japan now have some of the strongest economies in the world. There have certainly been wars, often with dubious justification or horrific results, but good luck finding an…

> but you can hardly say we've ruled the world terribly. "Terribly" is definitely a fair assessment. > who has ever ruled it better? Blatant whataboutism. > instead of conquering them "I protected them in so many ways, cared for them as if they were my own children. But to this day, is there a single statue of me on Bajor?"

What you call whataboutism, I call comparative evaluation.

On an absolute scale, every world power in history and humanity in general has been terrible. Endless injustices and atrocities since the very start.

That’s just not a very useful way to look at things though.

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Post by csa »

DontForgetMe wrote: post #148
OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #63

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> Absolutely no English speaker doesn't read 'PJs' as 'pyjamas'.

While I agree that “pajamas” is the most common meaning of PJs, there is a certain socio-economic class in the US in which “PJs” is used far more often in speech to refer to private jets than pajamas.

I’m a “language guy”, and it was a new one to me when I started spending more time around people who were referring to, and often users of, PJs.

While the person you were responding to took a crass line, their linguistic intent was very clear to me.

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Post by actionfromafar »

mgh95 wrote: post #143
actionfromafar wrote: post #137

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You think there will be midterms?

Yes. People love to hyperbolize "this is the last election ever", "this is the most important election ever", "no matter what we need to win this time or the world will end". People doom too hard.

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Post by therobots927 »

slg wrote: post #192
AaronAPU wrote: post #163

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There is a reason I started my first comment the way I did. For Trump's entire time in politics, there have been people trying to communicate the type of person he is and the plans he has for the US and there have been people like you who have said we're overreacting. It doesn't matter what actually happens. I could probably list dozens of examples, from the overturning of Roe v Wade to the violence of ICE, of times…

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Post by slg »

rhetocj23 wrote: post #183
slg wrote: post #103

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I don't think this line of thinking has any merit. Genocides have happened before and yet modern genocides still make me sad for humanity and I wish we did a better job preventing them.

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>people like you post and talk about it but take no real action.

Jumping to this type of insult based purely on your own fabricated narrative about me does nothing but further justify my last comment calling out your worldview.

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Post by thrance »

RickJWagner wrote: post #153
blensor wrote: post #77

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Since the democrats are not the ones in power at the moment, don't they have the bigger obligation towards the position of the people who voted for them. Which would be exactly the demand they are making right now. The party who is running the country does in theory have an obligation to all Americans, the opposition has an obligation to their own block.

Both parties are to blame. About a decade ago, Tea Party Republicans were in the minority, they refused to approve the budget as the Democrats are doing now. At that time, Democrats accused the Republicans of ‘holding the government hostage’. Now the roles are exactly reversed. It’s games as usual.

Democrats refuse to vote the budget because the GOP removed almost all healthcare funding from it and won't compromise on that. If this budget passes as is, millions will die of preventable diseases. How is it on democrats?
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