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I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by davorak »

hexbin010 wrote: post #13
Moveable_Type wrote: post #3

can't access due to UK online safety act

Well, technically, it's likely because he has decided to block UK IPs (or similar). A form of protest I assume, assuming he runs no business in the UK and no other reason to think the UK Gov has any interest in policing an .com blog run by someone who doesn't live there nor hosts the website there. (I'm not against that form of protest per se, but let's be clear about who's doing the blocking)

> A form of protest I assume,

Or to avoid the fines and/or to avoid integrating some age verification service.

Maybe symbolic since it unlikely the site would be prosecuted, even if they were in violation in some minor form. It is easy to be in violation to my understanding since it does not need to what is posted by the site owner as part of the blog but could be in the comments.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by crooked-v »

ai_critic wrote: post #110
andix wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never lived in a dictatorship, but I know a lot of people who did, and told me their stories. But from reading this article I couldn't tell if there is a massive crime surge in Chicago, or if it's police brutality, or both. Which is funny, because the article claims to explain ("I want you to understand").

It's not particularly a "surge" in crime, as the issue (illegal immigrants) has built up over time. However, in years past, everybody just kind of overlooks it--and on the local level, it's basically not a problem beyond the normal folks being mad at demographics changing. Most all of the immigrants are working and participating in the economy--ironically, making them more vulnerable to the .gov than if they were jus…

"Fears about immigration" are bullshit inevitably most pushed by people who don't even live in areas with immigrants (legal or not).

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by ai_critic »

crooked-v wrote: post #112
ai_critic wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not particularly a "surge" in crime, as the issue (illegal immigrants) has built up over time. However, in years past, everybody just kind of overlooks it--and on the local level, it's basically not a problem beyond the normal folks being mad at demographics changing. Most all of the immigrants are working and participating in the economy--ironically, making them more vulnerable to the .gov than if they were jus…

"Fears about immigration" are bullshit inevitably most pushed by people who don't even live in areas with immigrants (legal or not).

Eh, they're not, though, and you disregard them at your peril--just look at where we are now.

It's not for no reason this particular issue has been used so effectively. I'm not saying you have to agree with them, and I'm not saying that you have to believe their belief is coherent or sensical, but if you don't recognize that those beliefs are held honestly and widely you're in for a rude surprise...as we saw in the 2024 election (and before that, the 2016 election).

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by don_neufeld »

celsoazevedo wrote: post #88
itsoktocry wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In many instances, no. And that's where a lot of the anger and blow back stems from.

It would be interesting to see how that works. Even here in Europe where we usually have a strong(er) social net, the state wouldn't give me a benefit without going through a process requiring documents to prove who I am, my nationality, etc. There are food banks and stuff like that, but that's usually from charities.

Parent comment is talking about working “under the table”, receiving cash off the books for work done. Not government benefits.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by stavros »

HeinzStuckeIt wrote: post #16
alangibson wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voting is what got us in to this. This is supported by a majority of the US. You do not live in the country you think you do.

> This is supported by a majority of the US. The election was fairly close. The winning candidate got elected by a coalition of people with differing views on an number of individual items within his platform. That does not equate to certain approval by the majority of the American population of any of the things the linked article recounts. All that said, as an American living abroad who votes left, the use of terms…

> The election was fairly close.

Yeah but "the totalitarian Neonazis who wanted to deploy secret police were only a slight majority" is really faint praise.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by amazingman »

blindriver wrote: post #14
numbsafari wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think they didn’t? What makes you think this is the solution to that problem?

My point is everyone has been silent about Chicago's violence for decades, and only now they seem to care because it's not Black people being targeted. It's straight up racism to not care about Black people's welfare but care only when it's other people being endangered.

You're making a category error with this comparison. I'm wondering why the error isn't obvious to you.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by numbsafari »

blindriver wrote: post #14
numbsafari wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think they didn’t? What makes you think this is the solution to that problem?

My point is everyone has been silent about Chicago's violence for decades, and only now they seem to care because it's not Black people being targeted. It's straight up racism to not care about Black people's welfare but care only when it's other people being endangered.

Have they been silent, or have you been deaf?
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