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I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by turnsout »

turnsout wrote: post #35
pizlonator wrote: post #17

This is really sad to read! Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right? (I have no reason to believe that it's an exaggeration, but I sincerely hope that it is.)

It's not an exaggeration. People have been kidnapped by these armed masked idiots within two blocks of my house twice, and those are just the closest cases I know about. Go check out the /r/Illinois subreddit [0] to see what's happening. [0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/illinois/

And of course now the parent post is "flagged." Thank you, Libertarian overlords, from protecting the tech community from this dangerous content.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by toomuchtodo »

ryandrake wrote: post #49
toomuchtodo wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Margin of victory was ~2M votes, about how many voters 55+ die in a year. Hopefully enough voters have aged out or learned their lesson next time around (considering election results we've seen in the last week or so [1]). You're never going to convince unsavory voters to vote with empathy, the subject brain structure does not support it (anterior insular cortex, primarily), you can only hope they're aging out of the…

It's comforting that maybe this mentality is correcting itself one funeral at a time. But what really makes me sad is how this mentality so quickly swept into the country to begin with. 30 years ago, the vast majority of Americans would be horrified at the thought of people being assaulted on the street in broad daylight, black-bagged, kidnapped and disappeared forever by masked, non-identifying thugs. Fast forward 3…

Tribalism, identity politics, low education and lack of respect for education and intellectualism, and late stage capitalism. A cautionary tale, for sure. People are angry, rightfully so, but at the wrong people. Thank Reagan (economics) and Gingrich (politics) for a lot of this we’re facing.

Deepfriedchokes is right; we need stronger, more robust systems to protect humans from other humans, because we cannot trust the human (broadly speaking).

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by convolvatron »

blindriver wrote: post #14
numbsafari wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you think they didn’t? What makes you think this is the solution to that problem?

My point is everyone has been silent about Chicago's violence for decades, and only now they seem to care because it's not Black people being targeted. It's straight up racism to not care about Black people's welfare but care only when it's other people being endangered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Chica...

you're just throwing shit at the wall

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by turnsout »

cgag wrote: post #42

A plumber working on my pipes is upset, his wages are suppressed by competition from illegals getting paid under the table, while his rent has skyrocketed, and his taxes are paying for his illegal competitors food and rent and healthcare.

Definitely sounds like a real story

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by ryandrake »

metalcrow wrote: post #40
ryandrake wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The winning candidate got elected by a coalition of people with differing views on an number of individual items within his platform. That does not equate to certain approval by the majority of the American population of any of the things the linked article recounts. There may be differing views on other topics among the party, but Republicans broadly support this vision of cruelty and these actions against immigra…

Your citation doesn't support your claim

- 74% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say the Trump administration is doing the right amount to deport immigrants who are in the U.S. illegally. Another 12% say it’s doing too little and 13% say it’s doing too much.

- Nearly nine-in-ten Republicans approve of sending additional U.S. troops to the border (88%) and increasing deportations (86%). More than six-in-ten strongly approve of these actions.

- 80% of Republicans approve of cutting federal funds to cities and states if they do not cooperate with deportations

- 72% of Republicans approve of suspending asylum applications, with 38% saying they strongly approve.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by deepfriedchokes »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #30
ryandrake wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is how many people enthusiastically voted for this madness, lawlessness and cruelty, and are still cheering it on. You can say "vote, vote, vote," and maybe it will work in 2026 or 2028, or 2030 or whenever, but the root problem is not going away: you are still surrounded by people all over the country who want this.

Margin of victory was ~2M votes, about how many voters 55+ die in a year. Hopefully enough voters have aged out or learned their lesson next time around (considering election results we've seen in the last week or so [1]). You're never going to convince unsavory voters to vote with empathy, the subject brain structure does not support it (anterior insular cortex, primarily), you can only hope they're aging out of the…

We shouldn’t need to count on voters dying to avoid outcomes like this. Our institutions are broken if they can’t protect the public from a mentally ill public official on a power trip.

Re: I Want You to Understand Chicago

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Post by SlightlyLeftPad »

tedivm wrote: post #39
pizlonator wrote: post #17

This is really sad to read! Can folks who live in Chicago confirm/deny/comment on the extent to which this article gets it right? (I have no reason to believe that it's an exaggeration, but I sincerely hope that it is.)

I live in Chicago, and this article doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad it is. My wife went to the beach yesterday for 10 minutes to try and rest from the chaos and a fucking black hawk helicopter buzzed by her. They literally fly over my house daily. People, US citizens included, are literally being abducted. People have been shot and killed by masked agents. People have had their children abandoned on the s…

The media has an existential threat of having their broadcast licenses revoked so yeah that probably has a lot to do with why there’s no coverage.

If the media had balls, they’d broadcast anyway, license or not.

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