Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
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Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#2Our current form of asocial media is nothing else like drug abuse.
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#3How will they achieve that without introducing a requirement to identify yourself on every online platform, which some would say is probably the whole reason for introducing something promoted as being "for the children"™.
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#4How will they achieve that without introducing a requirement to identify yourself on every online platform, which some would say is probably the whole reason for introducing something promoted as being "for the children"™.
Given all the information companies have about users on social media, do you really believe they can't guess the real age?
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#5It'll be interesting to see what they can cook up at home. Chat Control was pushed in large part by Denmark, and Minister of Justice Peter Hummelgaard is on record saying some pretty disturbing things regarding the right to privacy online.[1] Now for this, they don't need the entire EU to go along, and any laws already on the books might prove ineffective to protect against means that end up achieving similar goals to Chat Control.
Denmark's constitution does have a privacy paragraph, but it explicitly mentions telephone and telegraph, as well as letters.[2] Turns out online messaging doesn't count. It'd be a funny one to get to whatever court, because hopefully someone there will have a brain and use it, but it wouldn't be the first time someone didn't.
[1] https://boingboing.net/2025/09/15/danish-justice-minister-we...
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#6How will they achieve that without introducing a requirement to identify yourself on every online platform, which some would say is probably the whole reason for introducing something promoted as being "for the children"™.
the EU is working on a system for age verification that won't identify you to the platform. The details are of course complicated, but you can imagine an openid like system run by the government that only exposes if you're old enough for Y.
The platforms asks your government if you're old enough. You identify yourself to your government. Your government responds to the question with a single Boolean.
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#7How will they achieve that without introducing a requirement to identify yourself on every online platform, which some would say is probably the whole reason for introducing something promoted as being "for the children"™.
the EU is working on a system for age verification that won't identify you to the platform. The details are of course complicated, but you can imagine an openid like system run by the government that only exposes if you're old enough for Y. The platforms asks your government if you're old enough. You identify yourself to your government. Your government responds to the question with a single Boolean.
Our German national ID supports just verifying that you are over age X, with no other info given.
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#8How will they achieve that without introducing a requirement to identify yourself on every online platform, which some would say is probably the whole reason for introducing something promoted as being "for the children"™.
Given all the information companies have about users on social media, do you really believe they can't guess the real age?
Some people: these online companies have too much information about us! They know everything about us!! Where's muh privacy??
Same people now: how will the poor company know that it's an underage user?? Oh noes!
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#9How will they achieve that without introducing a requirement to identify yourself on every online platform, which some would say is probably the whole reason for introducing something promoted as being "for the children"™.
With digital ID. They are releasing it in a couple of months.
https://digst.dk/it-loesninger/den-digitale-identitetstegneb...
Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15
#10It'll be interesting to see what they can cook up at home. Chat Control was pushed in large part by Denmark, and Minister of Justice Peter Hummelgaard is on record saying some pretty disturbing things regarding the right to privacy online.[1] Now for this, they don't need the entire EU to go along, and any laws already on the books might prove ineffective to protect against means that end up achieving similar goals t…
Whether internet is covered by § 72 seems undetermined; as far as I can tell the Supreme Court hasn't made a decision on it; but considering that it considered fake SMS train tickets to be document fraud, even though the law text never explicitly mentions text messages: it seems clear that internet communication ought to be covered, if challenged.
Regardless, this wouldn't run afoul of this. This is similar to restricting who can buy alcohol, based purely on age; the identification process is just digital. MitID - the Danish digital identification infrastructure - allows an service to request specific details about another purpose; such as their age or just a boolean value whether they are old enough. Essentially: the service can ask "is this user 18 or older?" and the ID service can respond yes or no, without providing any other PII.
That's the theory at least; nothing about snooping private communication, but rather forcing the "bouncer" to actually check IDs.