I'm a European and this is fake news
I'm European and I can confirm that Mamdani is very mild with his leftism.
Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
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Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think you can nitpick the detail but the broader point is still true. Yes, you still pay for the bus, but it’s heavily subsidised. Yes, you still pay for childcare but government subsidies make it wildly more affordable than it is today for New Yorkers. The general pitch is “raise taxes to make life more affordable for all”. That’s an idea Europeans can identify with.
I think a big issue some Americans have is that they think socialism is great because it is the European model. 1. Europe is not socialist (Eastern Europe and the USSR were). And, no, social-democracy is NOT socialism. 2. The welfare state is essentially bankrupt in many European countries. 3. Socialism cannot, ultimately be democratic. My only sane interpretation for an election of a socialist candidate in 2025 is t…
Europe is not a monolith.
Norwegians self identify as socialist for example.
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#33I'm a European and this is fake news
Also European, and I partly agree.
But I think they are "normal" left wing policies in Europe in the sense that parties in various countries/cities/regions have campaigned on them or implemented them.
But my understanding of some US media is these are depicted as borderline communism.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you have no say in how much you are taxed Which New Yorkers do, because they just voted. I guess I did miss the point because from where I’m standing this is all a big non sequitur. “Mamdani seeks to raise taxes and spend the revenue on subsidizing services used by all. This is similar to an approach seen often in Europe” “Did you know that if you tax people too much they revolt” …okay?
I realize this is difficult for you, but if you read my first response to you, it was talking about Europeans (which I am), and what they identify with, we as Europeans, have little say in how we are taxed.
> we as Europeans, have little say in how we are taxed.
Do you not have elections?
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I realize this is difficult for you, but if you read my first response to you, it was talking about Europeans (which I am), and what they identify with, we as Europeans, have little say in how we are taxed.
> we as Europeans, have little say in how we are taxed. Do you not have elections?
You understand surely, that just because people vote, doesn't mean their representatives actually do anything that the people that voted want?
come on
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#36Maybe the subsidized transit is normal in europe, and universal childcare in some parts of europe (definetly not all of western europe), but this article is stretching when claiming state run grocery stores are normal.
Its also conveniently leaving out the policy ideas on reducing policing, and introducing mental health crisis workers which have been tried in the US (SF) and worked disastrously.
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> we as Europeans, have little say in how we are taxed. Do you not have elections?
You understand surely, that just because people vote, doesn't mean their representatives actually do anything that the people that voted want? come on
To stop dancing around the obvious: I understand that you don’t want to pay taxes and are annoyed that you live in a society that has decided, via very regular democratic process, that people should pay taxes.
That doesn’t mean democracy is a failure, it just means your opinion is in the minority.
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#38Have most Western countries mostly given up on supply side policies for housing price stablisation as an option ? Odd given how much construction tech has improved.
You mean building more housing? NIMBYs won't allow housing prices to go down.
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
You understand surely, that just because people vote, doesn't mean their representatives actually do anything that the people that voted want? come on
To stop dancing around the obvious: I understand that you don’t want to pay taxes and are annoyed that you live in a society that has decided, via very regular democratic process, that people should pay taxes. That doesn’t mean democracy is a failure, it just means your opinion is in the minority.
now you're just lying, blatantly.
My point was about the degree of taxation.
Re: Europeans recognize Zohran Mamdani's policies as 'normal'
#40Have most Western countries mostly given up on supply side policies for housing price stablisation as an option ? Odd given how much construction tech has improved.
Housing prices won't ever stabilize as long as land is a tradeable commodity that 'stores' value. If people can make money with man-in-the-middle techniques and cheap money (low interest rates), then they will, and this will drive the real-estate boom-bust cycle we have that runs on ~18 year cycle (last bust was late 2008, early 2009, prior bust was around 1990)
Become communist (or communist lite) and reserve land ownership to the state, lock land price to its productive capacity (as assessed by the state), mediate sales and usage taxes based on the same. Prevent resale/sublet between individuals. Allow transfer of control only from individual -> state -> individual.
Or use a regulatory approach where only the state can set the price of land, and the price is based on well-defined factory (productivity, proximity to population centers, population density, etc).
All value in an economy arises from real estate. Real estate (and the related businesses, including banking and lending) drive all economic activity in the world.