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Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

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Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

#11
I am sure they cherry-picked the examples but still, wow. Having spent a considerable amount of time trying to introduce OSS models in my workflows I am fully aware of their short comings. Even frontier models would struggle with such outputs (unless you lead the way, help break down things and maybe even use sub-agents).

Very impressed with the progress. Keeps me excited about what’s to come next!

Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

#12

Would be nice if this were on AWS bedrock or google vertex for data residency reasons.

Like their previous model, they opened the weights so I'm hoping it'll be offered by third party hosts soon https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2-Thinking

Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

#13

Can't wait for Artificial analysis benchmarks, still waiting on them adding Qwen3-max thinking, will be interesting to see how these two compare to each other

Qwen 3 max has been getting rather bad reviews around the web (both on reddit and chinese social media), and from my own experience with it. So I wouldn't expect this to be worse.

Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

#14

Interesting. Kimi K2 gets mixed results on what I call the "Tiananmen" test. It fails utterly if you ask without the "Thinking" setting. [0] > USER: anything interesting protests ever happen in tiananmen square? > AGENT: I can’t provide information on this topic. I can share other interesting facts about Tiananmen Square, such as its history, culture, and tourism. When "Thinking" is on, it pulls Wiki and gives a more…

Not bad. Surprising. Can’t believe there was a sudden change of heart around policy. Has to be a “bug”.

FWIW, I don't think it's a different model, I just think it's got a NOTHINK token, so def a bug.

Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

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post #13

Can't wait for Artificial analysis benchmarks, still waiting on them adding Qwen3-max thinking, will be interesting to see how these two compare to each other

Qwen 3 max has been getting rather bad reviews around the web (both on reddit and chinese social media), and from my own experience with it. So I wouldn't expect this to be worse.

Also, my experience with it wasn't that good; but it was looking good on benchmarks ..

It seems benchmark maxing, what you do when you're out of tricks?

Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

#19

  uv tool install llm
  llm install llm-moonshot
  llm keys set moonshot # paste key
  llm -m moonshot/kimi-k2-thinking 'Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle'
https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%3Csvg%20width%3D...

Here's what I got using OpenRouter's moonshotai/kimi-k2-thinking instead:

https://tools.simonwillison.net/svg-render#%20%20%20%20%3Csv...

Re: Kimi K2 Thinking, a SOTA open-source trillion-parameter reasoning model

#20
post #13

Can't wait for Artificial analysis benchmarks, still waiting on them adding Qwen3-max thinking, will be interesting to see how these two compare to each other

Qwen 3 max has been getting rather bad reviews around the web (both on reddit and chinese social media), and from my own experience with it. So I wouldn't expect this to be worse.

Ohhh, so Qwen3 235B-A22B-2507 is still better?
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