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The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Dunbar's number leaps to mind. I wonder what our systems look like at large when we have cause to strengthen our 150 meaningful connections. Would this truly be a move back? I've met people outside my social class and disposition who seem to rely quite heavily on networking this way.

This is exactly the reason Human biological limits prevent the realization of stable equilibrium at the scale of coordination necessary for larger emergent superstructures Humans need to figure out how to become a eusocial superorganism because we’re past the point where individual groups don’t produce externalities that are existential to other groups/individuals I don’t think that’s possible, so I’m just building t…

This resonates with me.

I'd love to see the machine version or hear more of your thoughts about what goes into it.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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This isn't limited to sales. The trust collapse is also coming for the public debate, interpersonal relationships and probably more stuff than I can imagine right now. I predict a renaissance of meeting people in person.

> I predict a renaissance of meeting people in person. I hope that will come to fruition.

Let's call it the glass-half-full scenario :)

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Yuval Noah Harari, Sapiens fame [0], has a great quote (paraphrasing): Interviewer: How will humans deal with the avalanche of fake information that AI could bring? YNH: The way humans have always dealt with fake information: by building institutions we trust to provide accurate information. This is not a new phenomenon btw. In democracies, this is often either the government (e.g. the Bureau of Labor Statistics) or…

Unfortunately that's not what happens. BBC, Al-Jazeera, RT, CBC are all propaganda sources and are not sources of information. The other family members will get the information from those sources so family will not be trusted as well. And the sources I consider as trustfull, my opinion of them most likely skewed by my bias and others will consider it propaganda as well.

CBC and BBC aren't perfect, but I trust them leagues over any billionaire owned media like anything from Post Media the Murdochs, or Bezos. Really any for profit news isn't to be trusted.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Doesn't matter. We must keep building more and more technology no matter the cost. Have an idea for a business? Build it. Does your business make the lives of people worse? Doesn't matter, keep pushing. Could some new technology ruin the lives and relationships that people have? Doesn't matter, just build it. We always need more, need to do more. Every experiment is valid, every impulse must be followed. More complex…

Eric Weinstein refers to this as an Embedded Growth Obligation (EGO), whereby organizations and economies at large assume perpetual growth, and that things really start to unravel when that growth inevitably slows. It is pretty mindblowing how we have basically accepted growth as the default state, it is not at all a given that things always grow and get better.

We will achieve essentially zero-cost infinite exponential scalability! The cloud has no limits! InfiniDum enterprises will operate in billions of markets across time space and dimensions of probability!

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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This is ignoring the Marketing to Engineering ratio. For most recent history technology companies have had to spend at least as much on marketing as engineering in order to survive, and two to ten times as much spent on marketing as engineering is common for successful companies. Who is going to buy the thing is the most important question and without solid answers there is nothing, no matter how much technology was…

I want to keep reading your thoughts on this. How can I get more or can you source your influences?

Probably best to start here with the original paper and then search for related material as the idea has been kicked around for a while: http://www.marketingvp.com/download/mer-data.pdf

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Doesn't matter. We must keep building more and more technology no matter the cost. Have an idea for a business? Build it. Does your business make the lives of people worse? Doesn't matter, keep pushing. Could some new technology ruin the lives and relationships that people have? Doesn't matter, just build it. We always need more, need to do more. Every experiment is valid, every impulse must be followed. More complex…

But the difference this time is now is that AI is heading in the direction where it can do ALL of WHAT you mentioned FOR you and everyone else.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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YouTubers and other social media influencers are a sort of royalty now, getting to decide by fiat which companies live or die. But you can’t really even make the case to them anymore because like you said they can’t/won’t even read your email. What mostly happens is they constantly provide free publicity to existing big players whose products they will cover for free and/or will do sponsored videos with. The only rea…

Or know people personally. There's two people I promote because they actively helped me do my own work, pitched in open source code and did development to support my project. There's another guy who lives in my town, so he gets some mention just because of that (his work's good, but that's my angle for mentioning it). And a microphone company got a shout out not because they give me microphones, but because the guy r…

Yeah, and I don’t mean to be complaining. I made the choice to move to the middle of nowhere and change industries. None of my contacts have relevance in this one and there is no presence in my area for networking.

In any case, I can’t complain anyway because I have received my share of favorable coverage. It is just less frequent when you don’t have the personal connections.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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move fast and break things! nevermind if the things are people or their lives!!

build things """"people"""" want

That is only true as long as people are the only entities who can spend money. As soon as people give AI the power to spend money, we will see companies designing products to appeal to AI:s. A new form of SEO spam, if you will.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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The problem is that too many people just don't know how to weigh different probabilities of correctness against each other. The NYT is wrong 5% of the time - I'll believe this random person I just saw on TikTok because I've never heard of them ever being wrong; I've heard many stories about doctors being wrong - I'll listen to RFK; scientific models could be wrong, so I'll bet on climate change being not real etc.

COVID ended my trust in media. I went from healthy skepticism to assuming everything is wrong/a lie. There was no accountability for this so this will never change for me. I am like the people who lived through the Great Depression not trusting banks 60 years later and keeping their money under the mattress.

I've seen this take a few times recently, including from a relatively famous person who seemed to be on my wavelength generally but I don't quite understand what is meant by it.

Could you quickly summarize how and why you felt let down by the media in regards to COVID?

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Doesn't matter. We must keep building more and more technology no matter the cost. Have an idea for a business? Build it. Does your business make the lives of people worse? Doesn't matter, keep pushing. Could some new technology ruin the lives and relationships that people have? Doesn't matter, just build it. We always need more, need to do more. Every experiment is valid, every impulse must be followed. More complex…

This is what you get for not reading the writings of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Virilio
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