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The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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What I get from the article is that, proving that a company will stick around for a while after you’ve subscribed is hard now, because anybody can AI generate the general vibe of the marketing department of a big established player. This seems like it’ll be devastating for companies whose business model requires signing new users up for ongoing subscriptions. Maybe it could lead to a resurgence of the business model…

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Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

#32

What I get from the article is that, proving that a company will stick around for a while after you’ve subscribed is hard now, because anybody can AI generate the general vibe of the marketing department of a big established player. This seems like it’ll be devastating for companies whose business model requires signing new users up for ongoing subscriptions. Maybe it could lead to a resurgence of the business model…

that's exactly my point - yes

you need to prove beyond a doubt that YOU are the right one to buy from, because it's so easy for 3 Stanford dropouts in a trenchcoat to make a seemingly successful business in just a few days of vibecoding.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

#34

What I get from the article is that, proving that a company will stick around for a while after you’ve subscribed is hard now, because anybody can AI generate the general vibe of the marketing department of a big established player. This seems like it’ll be devastating for companies whose business model requires signing new users up for ongoing subscriptions. Maybe it could lead to a resurgence of the business model…

We already got your money, what do we need to work for again?

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

#36
post #32

What I get from the article is that, proving that a company will stick around for a while after you’ve subscribed is hard now, because anybody can AI generate the general vibe of the marketing department of a big established player. This seems like it’ll be devastating for companies whose business model requires signing new users up for ongoing subscriptions. Maybe it could lead to a resurgence of the business model…

that's exactly my point - yes you need to prove beyond a doubt that YOU are the right one to buy from, because it's so easy for 3 Stanford dropouts in a trenchcoat to make a seemingly successful business in just a few days of vibecoding.

> 3 stanford dropouts in a trenchcoat

I'm using this

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

#37
I'm already seeing this. I very much fall into the category of 'delete all email offers' as I'm a small youtuber, big enough to be targeted by AI sponsor deals, so I'm just buried with it.

The last five times I've looked at something in case it was a legitimate user email it was AI promotion of someone just like in the article.

Their only way to escalate, apart from pure volume, is to take pains to intentionally emulate the signals of someone who's a legitimate user needing help or having a complaint. Logically, if you want to pursue the adversarial nature of this farther, the AIs will have to be trained to study up and mimic the dialogue trees of legitimate users needing support, only to introduce their promotion after I've done several exchanges of seemingly legitimate support work, in the guise of a friend and happy customer. All pretend, to get to the pitch. AI's already capable of this if directed adeptly enough. You could write a script for it by asking AI for a script to do exactly this social exploit.

By then I'll be locked in a room that's also a Faraday cage, poking products through a slot in the door—and mocking my captors with the em-dashes I used back when I was one of the people THEY learned em-dashes from.

One thing about it, it's a very modern sort of dystopia!

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

#38
Trust collapse is real, I don't trust anything anymore. Take this article for instance, I don't trust it because of the random bolding. Does that mean it's AI generated? I don't know but I've seen lots of AI generated content and it has random bolding, so when I see it, I immediately don't trust it. And I don't have the time to verify anything, so whether or not this article was written by the author or AI, it's gone on the "not credible" heap for me, just because of the bolding. It's not a strong signal but it's a signal, and due to the volume of slop, I must filter on whatever signals I have to maintain any chance of finding genuine human work product. Maybe I miss something genuine and important by filtering this way, but it's the best I can do.

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

#39

I use RSS to follow these I want to hear. I do not follow recommendation, since RSS reader is my window to the world. I follow even AI slop via reddit RSS. I control however what comes in.

I'm looking for a practical and possibly Open Source way to filter noise from RSS feeds, have you got any recommendation?

Re: The trust collapse: Infinite AI content is awful

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

build things """"people"""" want

People want dopamine hints, gamification, addictive distractions, and a culture of competitive perma-hustle. If they didn't, we wouldn't be having these problems. The problem isn't AI, it's how marketing has eaten everything. So everyone is always pitching, looking for a competitive advantage, "telling their story", and "building their brand." You can't "build trust" if your primary motivation is to sell stuff to you…

Tired: "Build things people want"

Wired: "Build things society needs"

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