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I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by TiredOfLife »

tguvot wrote: post #201
TiredOfLife wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All of them

i have dishwasher that is loaded with cartridge that has 400g of powder. ideal scenario for dispensing detergent at will. yet, never mind what cycle I am using, it dispensed only during main wash cycle. i also had in past machines from 5 different manufacturers. none of them had mechanisms that facilitate 2 releases or pre-wash compartments

> i also had in past machines from 5 different manufacturers. none of them had mechanisms that facilitate 2 releases or pre-wash compartments

did you check the manual? I think in a previous video he mentioned that for machines like that it was stated in manual to add powder for prewash directly in the machine.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by zeroonetwothree »

analog31 wrote: post #89
basscomm wrote: post #86

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> Maybe the pods foam up too much, because it seems hell of a foamy inside. Dishwasher detergent doesn't make suds. Dish soap does. Are you sure you're using the correct stuff? Or prewashing the dishes for some reason and not getting all the soap off?

Anecdote: My spouse and I visited some friends for supper at their place. After the meal, was when they decided to try out the dishwasher in their apartment for the first time. With dish liquid. It's almost like the movies where the wash machine fills the house with suds, and the occupants go floating out the front door.

I think it’s a rite of passage to do this at least once.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by zeroonetwothree »

billfor wrote: post #185

I went to my Costco right before they banned phosphates in the dishwashing detergent and got a pallet of Cascade with 5% phosphates. People looked at me like I was was crazy. I'm still going through my pallet 15 years later and my dishes are always clean :-) I just throw a bit of the detergent in the tub for prewash rather than put it in the cup, as it will leak out anyway. One thing you could probably do for the pho…

So we have you to blame for coral reefs dying

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by billfor »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #273
billfor wrote: post #185

I went to my Costco right before they banned phosphates in the dishwashing detergent and got a pallet of Cascade with 5% phosphates. People looked at me like I was was crazy. I'm still going through my pallet 15 years later and my dishes are always clean :-) I just throw a bit of the detergent in the tub for prewash rather than put it in the cup, as it will leak out anyway. One thing you could probably do for the pho…

So we have you to blame for coral reefs dying

Probably not I have a septic system.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by db48x »

vasco wrote: post #264
mitthrowaway2 wrote: post #217

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There's more to the video than just that. For example: you should run your hot water tap before turning on your dishwasher, and you should experiment with the dishwasher settings, because they can make a big difference.

The whole point of getting a dishwasher is to not think about any of this though, for me.

That probably just means you’re using your machine badly.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by tguvot »

TiredOfLife wrote: post #271
tguvot wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i have dishwasher that is loaded with cartridge that has 400g of powder. ideal scenario for dispensing detergent at will. yet, never mind what cycle I am using, it dispensed only during main wash cycle. i also had in past machines from 5 different manufacturers. none of them had mechanisms that facilitate 2 releases or pre-wash compartments

> i also had in past machines from 5 different manufacturers. none of them had mechanisms that facilitate 2 releases or pre-wash compartments did you check the manual? I think in a previous video he mentioned that for machines like that it was stated in manual to add powder for prewash directly in the machine.

they all washed dishes just fine without any prewash powder added. somebody "here" even quoted bosch manual that there is no need in prewash powder. i most of the time use cycle that doesn't even has prewash

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by magicalhippo »

arjie wrote: post #130

I love that there are people who will go into this much detail on stuff. It's really cool that they do. But the whole thing is that if you follow some sequence of steps, powder will clean as well as or better than pods for a third the cost. All right, this isn't a significant portion of my expenses so I'll pay the 3x cost since my dishes come out clean anyway. I wish the description of the video was like an abstract.

> But the whole thing is that if you follow some sequence of steps, powder will clean as well as or better than pods for a third the cost.

YMMV. Based on the earlier videos, I did switch back to powder, and I did follow the steps of putting some powder in the main compartment for the pre-wash. And i did try several powders.

Yet, none of the powders were anywhere near as good as the tablet we use.

It also doesn't contain any nasty chemicals, unlike several of the powders[1].

So we went back to our tablets. It might cost slightly more, but hardly a significant expense by any stretch.

Now, there might be some powders that work better which aren't available here in Norway. But I gotta work with what I got.

[1]: https://www.forbrukerradet.no/siste-nytt/test-av-oppvaskmidd...

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by tstrimple »

bombcar wrote: post #195
redundantly wrote: post #158

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My kids would routinely put in too much powder, which would gunk up the dispensing mechanism, requiring my time and effort to clean it out and fix it. Eventually the dispenser broke entirely and had to be replaced. We since switched to pods and haven't had any problems with the dispenser. The pods are worth every extra cent.

I just want a dishwasher and washing machine that I can load with gallons of soap once a month or whatever, and let it do the detail work for me. I know they exist in the commercial realm, but I'm not 100% certain the wife is ready for a Hobart machine in the kitchen ...

I was almost tempted into buying an all-in-one unit that washes and dries. Only a few brands are releasing these heat-pump based models currently and it doesn't seem quite ready for mainstream release. But the LG model I found did have the ability to preload it with detergent and run up to 60 cycles before filling again. I almost bought it just for that feature. But went with the older more reliable model instead. Maybe in 10 years after this washing machine dies the feature will be more prevalent and reliable.

https://www.lg.com/us/washcombo-all-in-one

I think long term, having two "all-in-one" combo washer and driers would make way more sense than separate washing and drying units. But the price for functionality just isn't there yet.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by db48x »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #161
olyjohn wrote: post #149

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Is that the point of the air gap? I can't even get a straight answer from plumbers on what it's for. I don't see how that could possibly help with a clogged drain, just seems like a secondary point for the drain water to come out.

I'm fairly sure the point of air gaps on drainage is to prevent sewerage water from backing up in to appliances if the sewerage line is blocked. It will instead spill on the floor where it will be more easily noticed and cleaned.

That is exactly why they are required in restaurants. You wouldn’t want the sewage to back up into a sink where food or dishes might be.

Re: I was right about dishwasher pods and now I can prove it [video]

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Post by adamors »

magicalhippo wrote: post #277
arjie wrote: post #130

I love that there are people who will go into this much detail on stuff. It's really cool that they do. But the whole thing is that if you follow some sequence of steps, powder will clean as well as or better than pods for a third the cost. All right, this isn't a significant portion of my expenses so I'll pay the 3x cost since my dishes come out clean anyway. I wish the description of the video was like an abstract.

> But the whole thing is that if you follow some sequence of steps, powder will clean as well as or better than pods for a third the cost. YMMV. Based on the earlier videos, I did switch back to powder, and I did follow the steps of putting some powder in the main compartment for the pre-wash. And i did try several powders. Yet, none of the powders were anywhere near as good as the tablet we use. It also doesn't cont…

He demonstrates this in the video as well. Powder/tablet from the same company performed differently, the powder seems to be deliberately underpowered.
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