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Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by hagbard_c »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #788
WatchDog wrote: post #309

I’m not a New Yorker or even an American, but it’s interesting just how much coverage this election has gotten in social media. I think most of his major policies are pretty bad, but I also think the reaction against him has been over the top. He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that. A…

> He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that. Why? How much of NYC's budget comes from Albany? My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes.

> My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes.

If those who claimed they would leave NYC for Florida (etc.) make good on their promises NYC will see a significant drop in tax revenues while the expenditures will skyrocket due to Mamdani's free-stuff policies. They can try to increase taxes which will lead to more net tax payers leaving the city. Of course it remains to be seen whether all those who said they would leave - up to a million people according to the legacy media - end up doing so but if this comes to pass those free buses might not end up happening after all. He'll probably blame it on the exodus and wash his hands clean off his campaign promises.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by hagbard_c »

bix6 wrote: post #886
AbstractH24 wrote: post #835

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I love how much Mamdani pisses people off just because he wants to buck the status quo. I don’t think he’ll get everything implemented he wants but I respect the mission. Sounds a lot like the justification many people used to vote for another guy. What to make of that similarity is yet to be seen.

Fair point but Mamdani isn’t a racist thief so far as I can tell?

And this isn't r/politics even if the site has started to resemble it more and more. There are many labels which can be stuck on Mamdani, none of them pleasant but since this is not r/politics let's just keep them under wraps just like you should have left yours in the drawer.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by [deleted] »

hypeatei wrote: post #797
scrubs wrote: post #446

A salient factor in this election is Trump. I've been saying for years that overreach on the right creates space, then oxygen, then agency for the (far) left. This election is the natural and logical consequence of maga overreach (and vanilla skanky stupidity) and reminds economic popularism is not wholly owned by the right. My fear is the US will cycle dumb right to stupid left, which helps absolutely nobody. It's t…

> My fear is the US will cycle dumb right to stupid left, which helps absolutely nobody. I agree, but having a "stupid left" is a whole lot better than a "dumb right" who is authoritarian and willing to side step everything in their hopes of creating a christo-fascist utopia.

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Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by bix6 »

hagbard_c wrote: post #922
bix6 wrote: post #886

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair point but Mamdani isn’t a racist thief so far as I can tell?

And this isn't r/politics even if the site has started to resemble it more and more. There are many labels which can be stuck on Mamdani, none of them pleasant but since this is not r/politics let's just keep them under wraps just like you should have left yours in the drawer.

If you’re so anti politics then why don’t you just flag me and not engage with me?

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by roncesvalles »

Maxatar wrote: post #43
wodenokoto wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren’t mayors in all countries politicians? In Denmark all mayors are identified with their party association when talked about in the news.

Reviewing various western democracies it looks like most mayoral candidates run affiliated with a political party. The exception is Canada where mayoral candidates run an independent campaign.

On the other extreme is India where even university student coucil candidates are associated with national political parties.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by tavavex »

tbrockman wrote: post #887
matsemann wrote: post #505

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This hoping for a future schadenfreude is kinda nasty. Why wouldn't you want the best for people?

It seems like there are a lot of people who are desperate for reality to conform to their cynicism, out of fear that they (and their world view) are part of the problem. For whatever reason, for some it's more gratifying to see others fail to prosper if it confirms their beliefs than it is to watch others succeed and have their beliefs challenged (even if it's to their own detriment). In many cases, I imagine those w…

This is exactly it, beautifully put. It's very easy and tempting to hide behind an ideology that makes broad-stroke descriptions about the entire world. "It's just how the world works", "it's simply basic economics" (really, nearly all claims about "basic" anything with no further nuance). But for people who are entrenched in their opinions, I don't think there's a lot of absolution or guilt going on. To the most dedicated believers, the belief had become a part of their identity, so vindicating it is almost integral to their being. Of course they'd want anyone who disagrees to suffer - they don't just view that as an inevitability, but also the morally correct thing, the appropriate punishment to the people for not accepting their obvious truth.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by nobody9999 »

AbstractH24 wrote: post #829
metalman wrote: post #666

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I’m curious what others with more insight might say about his ability to fund and implement his polices." Zohran has the largest, youngest, mandate in NYC in a very long time. The key is thats it's NYC and the place has an energy all it's own, and Zohran has that, and understands that NYC is always broke falling down, rich, and building up. Think about it, this guy just stood up, and Gotham said Hey!, you!, YES! NYC…

I don't know about age breakdown, but in sheer percent of voters, Mamdani has essentially the same mandate Trump had a year ago. Make of that what you will.

>I don't know about age breakdown, but in sheer percent of voters, Mamdani has essentially the same mandate Trump had a year ago.

Huh?

Trump v. Harris (2024) [0]

Trump: 49.8%, Harris: 48.3%

Margin: 1.5%

Mamdani v. Cuomo vs. Sliwa (2025) [1]

Mamdani: 50.4%, Cuomo: 41.6%, Sliwa: 7.1%

Margins:

Mamdani v. Cuomo: 9.8%

Mamdan v. Sliwa: 40.7%

how is that even remotely comparable?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_New_York_City_mayoral_ele...

Edit: Fixed formatting.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by _heimdall »

NeutralCrane wrote: post #764
_heimdall wrote: post #697

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Had the ACA gone further and actually provided a single payer system, I'd consider the block on denials based on preexisting conditions a win. As it is we have a system of private "insurance" that can't consider the risk level of those being insured. All that means is the companies charge everyone else more to subsidize the cost of those who are more at risk. That bastardizes the whole point of private insurance. I d…

> All that means is the companies charge everyone else more to subsidize the cost of those who are more at risk. Literally the purpose of insurance

Not private insurance. We all pay into it obviously, but our individual rates in an insurance market are based on individual risk. My rate is only impacted by others in a relative sense, if I'm more risky than someone else I pay more.

With preexisting conditions off the table, my rates may go up only because someone else is a higher risk and the insurance company can't charge them for it.

I said this in another post, but morally I don't want others to be denied health care. I don't want health insurance at all in that case because insurance implies that you pay more for riskier coverage.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by aidenn0 »

kelnos wrote: post #389
aidenn0 wrote: post #151

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...Said less than 51% of voters

The "said all of NYC" wasn't the best framing, but the entire post was about Democrats' choices, not everyone's. Also not sure what value your comment has. Interpret things charitably. Your "gotcha" is not at all that.

Perhaps I misread the tone of the comment I replied to, but I have seen lots of "Everybody supports X" when X won with barely half of the votes, and less than half the voting-aged population voted.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by AbstractH24 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #882
OkayPhysicist wrote: post #845

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly, the Democrats have done nothing but pander to people who hate them, who will never vote for them, and fucking LOVE their opposition for years now. If there is one thing to take away from the Trump campaigns, it's that pandering to an imaginary moderate is not nearly as effective as being really exciting to your base. All ceding ground to the opposition does is lead to disillusionment and apathy amongst the p…

> pandering to an imaginary moderate is not nearly as effective as being really exciting to your base The takeaway should be there is no one size fits all. Under Biden, donors pushed climate and identity politics that don’t work outside far-left Democrat strongholds. Then Kamala clumsily tried finding a centre in a multidimensional policy space which may not have a definable centre. Mamdani won New York. But “moderat…

> If we want to control national politics, we have to concede that West Virginia and Arizona voters don’t care about the same things as folks in Manhattan and San Francisco. That’s okay. We can embrace that diversity. But it also means we have to respect it and cut out the name calling because a promising candidate on the other side of the country doesn’t embrace your pet issue or identity language.

Very well put, I hope others see this as well.

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