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At this SF grocery store, you can't leave unless you buy something

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Re: At this SF grocery store, you can't leave unless you buy something

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There's a target store I've gone to that is sort of taken over by homeless. They are all over outside. They walk in with their bicycles. Target hasn't really done anything. It is kind of weird to shop there.

That said, I wonder what happens at safeway during a fire or shooter.

Re: At this SF grocery store, you can't leave unless you buy something

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There's a target store I've gone to that is sort of taken over by homeless. They are all over outside. They walk in with their bicycles. Target hasn't really done anything. It is kind of weird to shop there. That said, I wonder what happens at safeway during a fire or shooter.

> That said, I wonder what happens at safeway during a fire or shooter.

During a fire, the gate controller will have a fire alarm input on the terminal block wired to an output from the fire alarm system that will open the gate if the fire alarm system activates. All automatic doors/gates/card access doors and fire alarm systems work the same way, fail open on fire alarm signal.

If there was a duress button system at Safeway, a signal from that could be used to automatically open gates and doors as well during an active shooter incident, but afaik it’s not mandated by code like fire alarm door and gate releases are.

Some automatic sliding double doors actually are able to be pushed open, there’s a hidden hinge in the top that allows it to open up even if the double doors are closed.

Re: At this SF grocery store, you can't leave unless you buy something

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post #3

There's a target store I've gone to that is sort of taken over by homeless. They are all over outside. They walk in with their bicycles. Target hasn't really done anything. It is kind of weird to shop there. That said, I wonder what happens at safeway during a fire or shooter.

If the graphic on the machine is anything to go by, you just push on the barrier and it will swing out. If you didnt know, this is the same with all the regular motorized sliding doors, too.

Re: At this SF grocery store, you can't leave unless you buy something

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Vote with your feet: If you don't like it, go elsewhere. When I lived in SF, I stopped using the automated checkouts because they were too sensitive and glitchy; if you breathed on the scale they'd require a clerk to reset.

Must be an option they only opt to turn on in higher theft zip codes.

And I say that as someone who lives in the kind of city people associate with post-industrial decay.

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